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Old 10-13-2008, 02:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
Bruce Achterberg
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Hi Yang,

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Originally Posted by Hyperchiller View Post
And I know you are a keen Toasty member so I don't see why you can't network with members in your clubs.
Unfortunately Toastmasters, at least in my area, is rampant with compartmentalisation. More and more, I see I have to shelve parts of myself when I interact with my Toastmasters club members.

I don't expect perfect alignment, but I do expect people who are committed to aiming for that. That's the core of what I'm looking for: people who live consciously.

I find I'm surrounded by people who don't live consciously. People who are unhealthy, ridden with limiting, inaccurate beliefs, lazy people, and people who just don't seem to care about their results in life.

It really saddens me to see and be around people like that. I can almost sense their potential crying out, saying "...what if?" It's not pleasant, and I feel as if I have to tolerate it just to have some interaction with people.

Now I'm starting to think no compartmentalisation, even if it means little people interaction until I make some progress in other areas, is better that my current situation.

Although sometimes there are hidden benefits to things in our life, and I'm kind of not keen of just getting rid of things completely, especially since I'm not sure if that's even the right answer.

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So maybe don't invest as much energy in the relationships since they might be pulling you down.
It's a good, simple idea. Perhaps I should just try it instead of doing all of this speculation and "ideal solution" searching.

I'm already partly doing that by reading through Steve's book and becoming familiar with the principles, which I intend to apply.

But perhaps I should just start now.

It saddens me a bit to think that I might have to (perhaps because I'm still holding onto these aspects within myself), but it doesn't seem like it's in my best interest to settle for relationships where I can't be myself fully and live my purpose in harmony with the purpose of others. Right now, I kind of feel very owned. That's due to my lack of direction, but finding direction is yet another issue for me (although I at least have a path to explore for the moment; I'm feeling confident that if I just throw lots of personal development at this issue, it'll eventually give).

These are probably my two core life issues at the moment. Everything else is solvable and I can see what to do.

Thanks for the responses, Rose; Yang. It's nice to have connections that I can see part of myself in ("self" as in oneness, not vanity ). <--- see, this is what I'm wanting more of in my non-virtual interactions. Darn smart people being a minority.
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