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amixa · 09-23-2008, 02:20 AM

ok i've been reading a long and felt i had to respond to this:

[Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot
These were people I knew, when I was in the military. As I mentioned, they were placed in identical conditions. Same food; same clothes; same number of hours of sleep; same training; same bathrooms; same haircut; beds of the same size and shape; same guns; same distance to be run at 5:30 am every morning. Their situation is as "same" as you'll ever get. Why are the responses so different? I think it's largely got to do with what's in their heads.

yes. i agree. however its not just perspective (IMO). i feel i have to raise this as it is a valid issue. we are emotional beings and often we do not express and manage to overcome 'mental issues' due to the fact that we still have left over emotions that need to be dealt with. i know you are debating whether or not someone has the choice to lead a life of happiness and i think if everyone honestly knew how they could. not in all situations but plenty. i am getting the impression that people who do not feel it is possible to move on to a happier perspective is because of underlying emotions. if they feel trapped in their lives it may because they honestly can't, but what they may not realize is because of underlying emotions they did not know they had to deal with/afraid to deal with/how to deal with.

Did he invite it? Did he neglect his mental discipline until it could enter?

Or was he so constructed that the one-size-fit-all military environment handled him in ways that were inappropriate for him? Created situations that he was not capable of handling?

Maybe he would have been Singapore's next poet laureate. We'll never know now. He was just that dumb wimpy guy who couldn't hack it. Who had goofy ideas in his head that he listened to. The killjoy who didn't see it as a fun adventure.
--Bob

i have the upmost empathy for people who feel suicidal. after saying that i am going to say that it takes a lot of courage to actually seek help when you truly feel suicidal. i'm sure he didn't invite it but when he started noticing it he could have acted on it and chosen to get help before he sunk any lower but he didn't. and some people don't. you really have to swallow your pride to do so. its really a very strange mindset to lose hope and i wouldn't wish it upon anyone. but there are chances that people can choose to act upon and maybe they don't know how to change how they feel at that time and place, they can choose to receive help to change it before they dip down much lower then they can handle.

09-23-2008, 02:20 AM	#175 (permalink)
amixa Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 436	ok i've been reading a long and felt i had to respond to this: [Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot These were people I knew, when I was in the military. As I mentioned, they were placed in identical conditions. Same food; same clothes; same number of hours of sleep; same training; same bathrooms; same haircut; beds of the same size and shape; same guns; same distance to be run at 5:30 am every morning. Their situation is as "same" as you'll ever get. Why are the responses so different? I think it's largely got to do with what's in their heads. yes. i agree. however its not just perspective (IMO). i feel i have to raise this as it is a valid issue. we are emotional beings and often we do not express and manage to overcome 'mental issues' due to the fact that we still have left over emotions that need to be dealt with. i know you are debating whether or not someone has the choice to lead a life of happiness and i think if everyone honestly knew how they could. not in all situations but plenty. i am getting the impression that people who do not feel it is possible to move on to a happier perspective is because of underlying emotions. if they feel trapped in their lives it may because they honestly can't, but what they may not realize is because of underlying emotions they did not know they had to deal with/afraid to deal with/how to deal with. Did he invite it? Did he neglect his mental discipline until it could enter? Or was he so constructed that the one-size-fit-all military environment handled him in ways that were inappropriate for him? Created situations that he was not capable of handling? Maybe he would have been Singapore's next poet laureate. We'll never know now. He was just that dumb wimpy guy who couldn't hack it. Who had goofy ideas in his head that he listened to. The killjoy who didn't see it as a fun adventure. --Bob i have the upmost empathy for people who feel suicidal. after saying that i am going to say that it takes a lot of courage to actually seek help when you truly feel suicidal. i'm sure he didn't invite it but when he started noticing it he could have acted on it and chosen to get help before he sunk any lower but he didn't. and some people don't. you really have to swallow your pride to do so. its really a very strange mindset to lose hope and i wouldn't wish it upon anyone. but there are chances that people can choose to act upon and maybe they don't know how to change how they feel at that time and place, they can choose to receive help to change it before they dip down much lower then they can handle. Last edited by amixa; 09-23-2008 at 02:32 AM.