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Originally Posted by SonoranBob  Are we not talking about a willingness to change our thoughts? It's all in the same league in my opinion. But if you want to leave LOA out of it and substitute "the ability to choose one's feelings", feel free.
I am simply advocating balance and perspective in suggesting how people should deal with challenges that cause them existential pain. Suggesting they should or need not feel the pain is a tricky business. It is even possible in some cases that feeling what they feel is a necessary part of the healing process.
--Bob |
Oh, okay; in that case you might have been talking about me -- that you advocate ME having balance and perspective in suggesting how people should deal with challenges that cause them existential pain. Yes?
Except that I have no *shoulds* at all about how people deal with challenges that cause them existential pain, or anything else for that matter. I so agree with you that whatever someone is feeling is necessary, whether it's a healing process or not, because that's what they're feeling.
I do suggest that suffering (not pain) is unnecessary -- "not required" -- in response to the question that was originally asked of me regarding {if it's so easy, why don't people let go of it?} (and the answer was "it may not be easy, but it is simple").
I felt some pain when my friends and family didn't buy into my crap around my suffering ("men are pigs!" "I'll never fall in love again." etc.). I thought it was cruel of them not to be in agreement with me in my suffering (voila! more suffering!) They trusted me to do what I would with what they had to say, and I'm very glad they did, because if they had pandered to my crappy thoughts, I would have found it much easier to feel bad for a long time. They were
supporting me.
Do you think maybe that the pain of rape or losing your wife is "worse" somehow than the pain I or others have experienced? I tend to think probably not. We've all experienced suffering, and it does feel terrible. ("Mugged" was a euphemism -- did you catch that one?) The question is: what are you going to do with it now? As ALG wisely asked, are you willing to feel that same pain 20 years from now, or 10, or a month, or a day, or even one more minute? There is no wrong answer, of course, but I just don't buy into the idea that you "can't" make a difference in how you feel -- that you're just stuck with what you've got. "Won't" is a word I would buy -- and it's a perfectly acceptable alternative, as far as I'm concerned.
In ordinary conversations with people I'm not intimate with, I might not be so blunt about thoughts of being powerless and ineffective. But this is a personal development board, and I absolutely trust anyone who is here and up for personal development to do their right thing with what I say, whether it is to take it under consideration, to reject it outright, ignore it, be hurt by it, have their buttons be pushed, go batsh*t, have a breakthrough, insult me personally, or whatever is their right action or feeling.
And in my trust for people who are interested in personal development, I will not pander to thoughts of having no power to be the source in your life. You may not agree with me, and I don't think you should
, but I'm a stand for the infinite power, joy and abundance that is who we really are, and I won't pussyfoot around about it. (well, maybe I'll pussyfoot a little bit here and there.) If that is too much to bear, there is an "ignore" function here on the boards so you will not be forced to bear me. And if you ever feel like I'm breaking the rules of the forum, use the "report post" function and the moderators will investigate.
I just hope you don't miss one of my puns, or how much I love you.
All that said, though, I reckon I've pretty much said my peace on the subject, at least here in this thread.
But, oops, maybe you weren't referring to me!
If not, well, then, carry on, never mind!