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Still Growing · 09-18-2008, 01:28 PM

ar81,
Brutha said it very well. Also I'd like to add that Obama's campaign is also lying. When I speak to people from most countries its kind of a given that politicians lie or manipulate the facts lets say. People in most European countries have higher expectations. This stems from your gov'ts defensiveness on how much tax dollars they collect.

In socialistic countries the subconscience collective view is one that the tax payer is owed for all that they pay.

Its popular nowadays to criticize everything about the US. Most European countries have a general lack of respect for the American form of gov't. The basic fundamentals or structure of the US gov't is great but the problem IMO is that our gov't has been siezed by special interests.

IMO there are trap doors in disquise quietly built in to the US system that enables some to play the US gov't like marionettes. The include a 2 party system, think tanks, lobbists, and campaign finance. If these things were overhauled I think we'd be doing a lot better.

Most Americans feel that as flawed as our system is that at least the gov't isn't as bloated as many European countries. Although I have respect for these socialistic countries its the biggest fear for many Americans.

09-18-2008, 01:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
Still Growing Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 944	ar81, Brutha said it very well. Also I'd like to add that Obama's campaign is also lying. When I speak to people from most countries its kind of a given that politicians lie or manipulate the facts lets say. People in most European countries have higher expectations. This stems from your gov'ts defensiveness on how much tax dollars they collect. In socialistic countries the subconscience collective view is one that the tax payer is owed for all that they pay. Its popular nowadays to criticize everything about the US. Most European countries have a general lack of respect for the American form of gov't. The basic fundamentals or structure of the US gov't is great but the problem IMO is that our gov't has been siezed by special interests. IMO there are trap doors in disquise quietly built in to the US system that enables some to play the US gov't like marionettes. The include a 2 party system, think tanks, lobbists, and campaign finance. If these things were overhauled I think we'd be doing a lot better. Most Americans feel that as flawed as our system is that at least the gov't isn't as bloated as many European countries. Although I have respect for these socialistic countries its the biggest fear for many Americans. Last edited by Still Growing; 09-18-2008 at 01:33 PM.