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Old 12-17-2006, 07:51 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Radical View Post
In that case what about brain damaged people? Does their consciousness somehow get damaged in the so called non-physical plane, or are they just faking retardation?
Take the Mario example. Lets asume the controller is defect and sometimes when the player presses the button nothing happens. Sometimes when the player doesn't press the button, the controller acts like when it is pressed.
When Luigi observes Mario he must come to the conclusion that Mario is retarted.

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Also, when we are asleep we are not conscious, and our brains don't have any perceptions. We may have dreams, but they are just hazy thoughts floating around from previous perceptions.
How do you know that your brains don't have any perceptions when you sleep? Simply because you don't remember them? I had experiences where I acted conscious and had no memory of it afterwards. One was shutting my alarm clock of in a polyphasic sleep trial. The other was a bid more serious.
I woke up in a hospital, with some machienes attached to my body. I knew that I should be operated, but the last thing I remembered was going to bed the day before the operation.
My doctor told me that 6 days had passed. When I awoke at the OP-day I have had to be fully consciouis, but I had no real sleep in those 6 days so the memorys weren't saved. In your sleep your brain does memory saving.
Sure I thought that the doctor was nuts, their were no way that 6 days were simply disappeared.
But it turned out that those six days simply were not in my memory.

So to conclude that because you can't remember being conscious while you sleep, that you actually are unconscious is difficult.

But you would argue that your brain produces the perception of the ghost. The mind could as well produce the perception of a "physical plane".

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The only existence we know of is this current physical existence.
There you are wrong, you have no way to know that the physical plane exists. All you have is some perceptions. And it is quite possible that those perceptions don't resemble something phyical.
You would also think that when someone sees a Ghost that Ghost doesn't exist in the "physical plane". Seeing Ghosts through taking drugs is quite easy and a phenomen that you should be able to accept.

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Before you continue to argue, ask yourself this: What if there were more psychics in the world than there were scientists? Would scientists then not be considered the "weird ones"?
If you count all prists and shaman into the group of psychics I would think that there are more psychics than scientist. You have to take into account that most people in this world don't live in Europe or the USA.
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