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Old 09-07-2008, 01:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
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There is no proof of the existence of the abrahamic God. NO proof. I understand some people consider their interal revelations as objective proof. This is what I choose to ridicule.
There is no proof for a lot of things that you choose to believe in. If you love someone, you can't empirically prove to me that you love that person. You can't prove to me your emotions. It is just that because everyone experiences such things, no one questions their reality.

Some people experience God just as tangibly as you might experience love, or some emotion; sometimes, it might be stronger. Why do you think you have the right to ridicule them for their own experience?

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I also choose to ridicule people like The Archbishop of Cantebury, or The Pope, or any politician stupid to claim their allegiance to God.
Why?

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Furthermore I ridicule those people who claim I a going to hell, or claim that anything that occurs in their life is The Will of God, as if thats an answer.
An answer for what?

Why do you think you can judge if they think something is the will of God? You don't even think God exists, have never experienced God, so don't know if one can be so confident in such things.

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What I am trying to express here is that I have no problem with people who choose to privately and quietly believe in nonsense, it's fine by me. However I do not expect to have it in my school, or my government, or even my workplace. No thanks, not for me.
See, you're calling it nonsense again. What if I call your beliefs nonsense?

Also, who ever mentioned having it in the workplace or anywhere else public? However, it must be said that some moral baseline is used in government or in public in general, so refusing to allow religion in the public is professing one belief to be superior to another. Why should we have your beliefs in the public?

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If you insist on calling everything the will of God, then I don't want to know. I, frankly, choose to intellectually search for the answer, because I don't know. I am a fundamental agnostic, I don't know, you don't know, and if you think differently your an infadel pig...isn't that how fundamentalism works? Oh my mistake.
The only one judging or putting down anyone else right now is you. You may search for the answer however you see fit, but please accept that others may search quite differently than you, but that their methods may be just as valid.

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In my opinion anyone who claims they "know" the will of God, or can offer a concrete answer as to why something happened, then they are wrong, dangerously so, and should be treated as such.
Dangerously so? Like I said, it is a matter of faith, just as you have faith in various things. Everyone has faith, even if not in religion. How can you label someone as dangerously wrong for something as you said, can not be proven / falsified?
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