[Maguru]

Originally Posted by mercuryrising

Perhaps you could define what you mean by perfection. How about, perfection is always making the right choices? Do you always make the right choices?

Well no I wouldn't say it is about making right choices at all. If we knew what the right choice was, it wouldn't be a choice. My idea of perfection would be that every human life carries equal value but in reality it does not exist.

Your instinct comes before your sense of reason. Your instinct is your human nature. BTW, I can hear an air of superiority in your response here. I was giving you an example of following instinct and not some personal confession.

And are you better than others because of your ability to reason? Maybe if we all were perfectly rational...

Correct me if I am wrong but this feels like it's becoming personal. Have I offended you?

Perhaps we can choose to be offended. But then we come back to do we always make the right choice?

And I can think of some circumstances where offense would be universal. If someone killed your family, would you be offended? If they took everything you own, would you be offended? If they slandered you and destroyed your livelihood, would you be offended?

I would be devastated!

It's nice to sit in some ivory tower and say, "I am never offended." But the reality is that all people get offended some time. What I am saying is that when we have made a wrong choice, we are presented with another choice: which is either forgive or seek revenge.

If we have made a wrong choice wouldn't we be seeking forgiveness and asking for mercy?

When people look at their own imperfection, they feel inferior. So they judge others in order to feel superior. This goes back to attempting to live up to some impossible standard. My point is that the Biblical God is not expecting you to be perfect. That's why Christ showed up in the first place.

If god does not expect us to be perfect why has he set these standards? Surely this is a double standard?

If there is a god then maybe god should raise the bar and expect perfection, instead of sending his son to take responsibility for our imperfections?