Originally Posted by Kwimper
I know I sound like I'm out to "get" the poor old Hicks but I truly believe that they are con artists sucking in many people with their retarded views, the worst of which is the their view that animals in factory farms "chose" to incarnate in those conditions to feed humans.
Am I the only one who has a major problem with that TOTALLY UNTRUE opinion?
When I first heard Esther talking about that I nearly fell of my chair!
Why do they have to preach such nonsense? Is to justify their unhealthy eating habits? Or are they just cold hearted?
Those comments showed me what charlatans they really are.
Let me know what you think.
Kwimper, I've been impressed with the content of your other posts so far, this one took me by surprise.
First my comments on the Abraham group. I believe they are channeled beings and I believe Esther channels them. I've been around enough channeled entities to feel comfortable saying that.
The problem I have with Abraham and the teachings is they don't seem to have spent any time actually here. It's like they've read books about life in the physical plane, but have never really walked their talk... here. Saying that your thoughts do anything besides being your thoughts is ludicrous. It shows they haven't been here or weren't paying any attention while being in this plane of existence. The concept of denial is lost on them. That's what's missing from the books.
Now on to your comment.
What is so wrong with animals incarnating in support of humanity?
We would never do such a thing for them, right? When you think
you are a separate being with a life and a history, you would never do such a thing. Notice I said, 'think' you are a separate being. Animals don't think in the way humans do. Animals (and everything on earth) are still part of the totality of existence. They have no 'selves' as we would think it. They are life -- something we are also a part of but don't identify with. We see ourselves separate from life. We are very identified with physical forms and don't see ourselves as the awareness which makes this physical life possible.
If you dive deeper you'll find physicality isn't real either. That's another discussion.