This could be fun. I've wondered when someone would question Abraham's more controversial "teachings" about the nature of reality. And I know you think that it is Esther who is saying this, but it is allegedely Abraham. She translates blocks of thoughts from Abraham into the English language. Yes, you probably don't believe this, but let's just refer to the right entity as far as their own assumtptions go as to not create confusion. Or else people will just ask "was it Esther or Abraham that said this?"
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Originally Posted by Kwimper I know I sound like I'm out to "get" the poor old Hicks but I truly believe that they are con artists sucking in many people with their retarded views, the worst of which is the their view that animals in factory farms "chose" to incarnate in those conditions to feed humans. |
They chose most of all for their own selfish reasons, just as humans incarnated for their own selfish reasons. I don't know about this particular statement, but I do know that they claim that animals incarnate with the knowing and acceptance that they are likely going to be food for other animals. And I don't think that it is a "Ok, sure, I can tolerate that", but that there is no sense of compromise or loss in it. Sure, having your flesh torn apart by a lion might seem like a cruel fate, but I'm going to propose a very radical and irrational - based on our own perception of what is cruel and not - version: maybe not.
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Originally Posted by Kwimper Am I the only one who has a major problem with that TOTALLY UNTRUE opinion? |
Logical fallacy numero uno. You can't know that it is untrue.
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Originally Posted by Kwimper Why do they have to preach such nonsense? |
They don't preach as much as tell it like it is. If they said something like this, it was most probably as a direct question to some workshop paricipant, or a question from Jerry. If you want to accuse them of preaching, you would be more accurate in pointing out their "preaching" of being selfish, that you can follow your emotions unconditionally, and that we aren't here to learn spiritual lessons or to advance in a spiritual hierarchy, which are stuff that they "preach" a lot more. There is a lot of controversial stuff for you to be mad about and type in capital letters about.
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Originally Posted by Kwimper Is to justify their unhealthy eating habits? |
Come on now, that is just weak.
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Originally Posted by Kwimper Or are they just cold hearted? |
Abraham says there is no loss in death, and I think also no loss in dying by a butchers hand.
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Originally Posted by Kwimper Those comments showed me what charlatans they really are. |
Those comments made you poignantly aware of the vast differences in your belief systems. Nothing more. Nothing less.