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Old 09-02-2008, 04:09 PM   #47 (permalink)
Parthon
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pianoperformer: You sir .. just blew my mind! :P

You ask for honest perspectives about God. Excellent. You say you are a seeker of truth and enlightenment! GREAT!

People say "My perspective of God is <blah>"

You respond: I disagree. .... Wait what? Do you disagree that it's not their perspective? Do you disagree that the perspective for them isn't true? What exactly are you disagreeing with?!?

ALG's perspective *is* his perspective. Doesn't mean it's right/wrong/yellow/chocolate. It just means that after all the time he's spent searching and seeking, he has, so far, come to that conclusion. It's a perspective, and you can't disagree with it. You can say that you've tried it on and it doesn't fit. You can say that it's not your perspective and never will be. You can even give your own opinion on the perspective. Saying you don't agree with it is just mind boggling, there's nothing to agree/disagree to.

The reason why I say this is to just focus the conversation back on discovery, intro/extrospection and seeking through the mystery of life together, rather than debate or semantics.

As for quantum mechanics, now I'm no quantum scientist, I don't have the patience, but from the fair amount I've read on on the subject I've come to these conculsions, they aren't exactly scientific conclusions, but they are interesting.
Quantum mechanics surrounds the possibility of existance of atomic and sub-atomic particles. There's such laws as the law of uncertainty, and the law of observance. The fact that we can't measure something exactly, and things can "shift" randomly. On top of that the observer is pulled into the experiment itself just by the simple fact of observing it. On top of that we have chaos theory, which says that small changes in the environment can cause macro changes elsewhere. Plus there's been a few studies about how much thought and brainwaves affect the energy or form around it.

So right now, we are living in a universe whose fundamental blocks shift randomly, can't be accurately measured, are intertwined with us observers, MAY be affected by our very thoughts and even those tiny changes will eventually cause large effects in the macro scale world that we live in. Just this conclusion alone suggests that even if IM isn't real, that it at least is possible. While large body physics are controlled by newtonian physics, the tiny particles in between might just be enough to shift the universe, we just don't know yet.

Now, if I were a God will infinite intelligence, that's how I'd design it.

Also, there's more to life than science. Where is the love particle? How do you measure a friendship? What's the standard deviation of a hug? Why are people people? Is chocolate really that yummy? Why the universe? Why "why"? If? Because? If you could answer these questions, you'd be a great scientist indeed.
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