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Originally Posted by mercuryrising  Right. There constantly in motion. How do they move? What is the cause of the motion? |
Energy, of course. But what's it matter?
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Originally Posted by mercuryrising I'm defensive for reasons far beyond this thread. It's apparently that time of the month for me, so please let it slide.
You don't 'know' me. Your assumption that I'm am being 'new agey' is a bias in your thinking which is no more rational than any bias that I hold. |
Fair enough. But it seems like you have an odd view of energy, because you think it has some significance, when really it doesn't. Energy is simply the capacity for a physical system to do work. I just don't see the big deal in this.
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Originally Posted by mercuryrising Science sees energy as something affecting matter. |
Affecting matter? Maybe a property of matter, but I don't know about affecting matter.
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Originally Posted by mercuryrising On closer inspection, the matter that is being affected is energy itself. |
Um...I still have to disagree. I'm pretty sure energy is not matter. Matter
has energy. Just like if you eat food, you
have energy, but you are
not energy.
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Originally Posted by mercuryrising Here is my basis. Please, tell me where I have gone wrong. The universe begins as a large mass of energy. |
You keep thinking of energy as matter. I don't know what was in the big bang, and I know it
had a great deal of energy, but I don't think it
was energy.
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Originally Posted by mercuryrising The big bang happens. Now that ball of energy is spread out among the cosmos as galaxies, stars, etc. Those stars have various particles of dust which form planets. On this particular planet, they formed us along with everything else in nature. So, everything in the universe that is matter is energy. |
See above.
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Originally Posted by mercuryrising As I said, it's that time of the month.
The circular logic I am referring to is that no one really knows how the universe began. No one knows whether there is a creator behind it all. No one knows what happens when we die. Yet when someone presents an idea of an answer, people tear it apart with logic and presume themselves better than the person that presented the idea. I find it irritating. As if you and others on this forum do not have your own beliefs and ideas. It's the sense of superiority. It is circular in the sense that we still are no closer to an answer through reason... yet, we'll spend another 17 pages of Steve's website discussing it. |
Like I said, it doesn't matter to me what philosophical perspective you hold. I will correct you though when you misuse science to support it.