[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Bitsy

I have to try to understand what you are saying here, I am a bit slow...What you are saying is that if consciousness were independent of the body, we would be conscious when we are unconscious, for example, from some sort of accident, is this right?

Or just fast asleep. I have no conscious awareness when I am in deep sleep. In other words, I don't ever remember anything from this state of unconsciousness.

Well, I don't know that, honestly, but why do you ask that question instead of 'how I can close my eyes and move my mind to something that doesn't exist in my immediate external surroundings and be there consciously in my mind despite the fact that my body is still in the same geographical location and doesn't move'.

Your mind is thinking/imagining/focussed without thoughts of the present situation. During this time there are physical sensations that link the body to the mind experiences. However, it is not until the mind returns to the present situation (body and all) that these experiences can be remembered.

If body and awareness were dependent, wouldn't your body go wherever you put your consciousness

I think we can safely say that isn't true. But putting it the other way around, wouldn't the consciousness (as opposed to unconsciousness) go wherever the body goes? In deep sleep we have no awareness of anything.

as much as you indicate that your mind goes where your body goes if you are in an accident that renders you unconscious (if that's what you mean)? Incidentally, even in such a situation, your body has not gone anywhere, it still remains wherever it was thrown after it was struck by a car. What goes away from your body is your awareness. Where does it go? I don't know...

I wish I knew ????????????????