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Old 08-17-2008, 03:42 AM   #15 (permalink)
Poiesis Hagakure
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I agree with Brutha in the sense of the ghandi quote: be the change you wish to see in the world. you can only control yourself.

additionally, china and india will do as they will do.... the incentive they pursue is to make their economies strong and increase their political clout, etc. they want to become stronger nations. as per the capitalistic mindset*, they will not react to lobbying. they will pursue their incentive and unless we were capable of changing their incentives, we would not be able to stop the large amounts of pollution that will come about from their burgeoning industries, middle class members beginning to drive cars en masse, etc. because these things are key to their incentives as a nation and as a people to improve the standard of living.

i added the star behind capitalistic mindset because this is what i mean by incentives... it is the mindset that you are number one and stick out for yourself. you have to work towards your incentives, towards what aims you can achieve. you control your success or failure and all other matters, and people, are not even secondary... they are auxiliary matters, to maybe be considered, possibly, eventually. [see ayn rand, the poster child for laissez faire economics.]

who would you expect to put the world before their nation's profitability [although we all should... viewing success solely through profitability numbers is so shallow] ? ahh, the narrow tunnel vision of capitalism....
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