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Fullcrum · 08-13-2008, 04:48 PM

Igmistro, where are the proof for your claims? The articles claims one thing, and you refute it by stating another fact. How do you know that fruits do not stimulate the secretion of stomach acids? How do you know how fast they pass out of the stomach?

Where did you get your data on disease and mortality in the Inuit population? I've read the exact opposite data in other places. Who is right? Obviously I cannot take either you or the other sources at their word.

One thing the first article mentions is that other animals eating raw food take a lot of energy to grind it down in their stomachs. You'll also notice that the jaws of humans have shrunk so that we can no longer tackle tough plant food in large numbers just by chewing alone. So the obvious answer, to me, seems to be fruit. Humans are meant to include fruit as a large part of the diet, just like our closest relatives, the chimpanzees. It includes simple sugars that the body can almost immediately absorb, and fiber to stem the increase in blood sugar and provide consistent energy.

The second article uses a lot of persuasively styled phrases and explanations to make us assume the raw diet is a stupid idea and to make us not even consider it. It portrays cooked food as something we're missing out on and that we need to "lighten up" and start cooking. Very interesting - not such a basis in fact. I've heard, but cannot prove, that vitamin b12 is produced in the gut by healthy bacteria and fauna as well as being found on the bacteria in wild edible plants. For example, in the book Green for Life, one person reported that "Green Smoothies Stabilized Levels of B12" and goes on to explain how she was on some plant based diet but then had low levels of B12. She had green smoothies for a couple of weeks, went back in, and the levels had returned to normal. Could there be some other mechanism besides the raw production of B12? Maybe. Maybe it was trapped elsewhere in the body and needed the green smoothies to "free" itself through some metabolic pathway.

In any case, the logical arguments for meat consumption fail when you notice the energy gains, mental clarity, clear skin, and physical strength increase noticed on a raw diet.

Check this out for a more reasoned approach to dispelling raw food myths. Were Eskimos the Only Raw-Food Culture? / Hunter-Gatherer Health

08-13-2008, 04:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
Fullcrum Family Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,094	Igmistro, where are the proof for your claims? The articles claims one thing, and you refute it by stating another fact. How do you know that fruits do not stimulate the secretion of stomach acids? How do you know how fast they pass out of the stomach? Where did you get your data on disease and mortality in the Inuit population? I've read the exact opposite data in other places. Who is right? Obviously I cannot take either you or the other sources at their word. One thing the first article mentions is that other animals eating raw food take a lot of energy to grind it down in their stomachs. You'll also notice that the jaws of humans have shrunk so that we can no longer tackle tough plant food in large numbers just by chewing alone. So the obvious answer, to me, seems to be fruit. Humans are meant to include fruit as a large part of the diet, just like our closest relatives, the chimpanzees. It includes simple sugars that the body can almost immediately absorb, and fiber to stem the increase in blood sugar and provide consistent energy. The second article uses a lot of persuasively styled phrases and explanations to make us assume the raw diet is a stupid idea and to make us not even consider it. It portrays cooked food as something we're missing out on and that we need to "lighten up" and start cooking. Very interesting - not such a basis in fact. I've heard, but cannot prove, that vitamin b12 is produced in the gut by healthy bacteria and fauna as well as being found on the bacteria in wild edible plants. For example, in the book Green for Life, one person reported that "Green Smoothies Stabilized Levels of B12" and goes on to explain how she was on some plant based diet but then had low levels of B12. She had green smoothies for a couple of weeks, went back in, and the levels had returned to normal. Could there be some other mechanism besides the raw production of B12? Maybe. Maybe it was trapped elsewhere in the body and needed the green smoothies to "free" itself through some metabolic pathway. In any case, the logical arguments for meat consumption fail when you notice the energy gains, mental clarity, clear skin, and physical strength increase noticed on a raw diet. Check this out for a more reasoned approach to dispelling raw food myths. Were Eskimos the Only Raw-Food Culture? / Hunter-Gatherer Health Last edited by Fullcrum; 08-13-2008 at 04:57 PM.