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epicmoo · 08-09-2008, 10:42 PM

I find the theory of IM interesting. It makes sense in many ways.

I decided the best way to develop my faith, thus growing my ability to drawl power from it, is to manifest something common, like a quarter. Then I'd manifest something a bit less common, like a cigarette lighter. My hope was that I'd build faith this way.

The quarter ended up being right next to where I "asked" for it, even though it took me 15 minutes to notice it. I was blown away. The cigarette lighter has yet to appear (been 5 days).

Here's my big question. Is it possible to devise a true test to prove or disprove IM? At first I thought it would be easy. Then I thought it would be challenging, and require a dynamic test. Now I wonder if it's impossible, or if I'm over-thinking it and there's a more simple way.

A few days ago I tested IM:

1. I found 10 pieces of paper
2. I labeled each numerically, from 1 to 10
3. I folded them so the numbers cannot be seen
4. I told an unsuspecting friend that I wrote the number 1 on each paper (a lie)
5. I told the friend that some are written small, some are written big
6. I told the friend to simply pick one

It is unlikely the friend will pick the 1 paper. There's a 10% chance. Assuming the friend doesn't pick 1, let's review a possible arguments against the result.

"It doesn't matter what your friend thinks. It matters what you think. You knew the odds were 1/10 despite your lie, so the results reflected that."

There are two possible extensions of this argument.

1) Because you "knew" with confidence the odds of picking 1, your energy over-rid your friends energy based, which was based on their belief (perhaps laced with a hint of doubt because it was such an odd request).

or

2) Your friend drew a 1 in their reality. But in your reality they didn't. There are infinite realms. You only experience the results of what you believe to be true.

Is there a way to test IM actively like this? Or must we request small, likely things, slowly increasing the degree of unlikeliness with each new request?

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I'll end this with a story:

A friend of mine has an interesting story. He's a single entrepreneur with no family and only a few distant friends. He subscribes to no religion, but has had a number of supernatural experiences.

He befriended and eventually dated a girl who's ex-boyfriend was in jail. It was my friend's understanding that the ex-boyfriend still felt entitled to the girl, despite the girl moving on. When the boyfriend was being released from jail, my friend was a fearful. He decided to take an "extended vacation" in Puerto Rico. No one back in the states knew he was there.

Once there, he met people. They invited him to travel to a small island just to enjoy the nature and hang out. My friend went there, and upon arriving, a "friend of a friend" who my friend was only partially familiar with was there. How ironic! As it turns out, through the course of their discussion, the man was in fact the ex-boyfriend. My friend was overcome with fear and disbelief. He couldn't help but feel like he was in a dream.

08-09-2008, 10:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
epicmoo Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 10	Ways to Test IM I find the theory of IM interesting. It makes sense in many ways. I decided the best way to develop my faith, thus growing my ability to drawl power from it, is to manifest something common, like a quarter. Then I'd manifest something a bit less common, like a cigarette lighter. My hope was that I'd build faith this way. The quarter ended up being right next to where I "asked" for it, even though it took me 15 minutes to notice it. I was blown away. The cigarette lighter has yet to appear (been 5 days). Here's my big question. Is it possible to devise a true test to prove or disprove IM? At first I thought it would be easy. Then I thought it would be challenging, and require a dynamic test. Now I wonder if it's impossible, or if I'm over-thinking it and there's a more simple way. A few days ago I tested IM: 1. I found 10 pieces of paper 2. I labeled each numerically, from 1 to 10 3. I folded them so the numbers cannot be seen 4. I told an unsuspecting friend that I wrote the number 1 on each paper (a lie) 5. I told the friend that some are written small, some are written big 6. I told the friend to simply pick one It is unlikely the friend will pick the 1 paper. There's a 10% chance. Assuming the friend doesn't pick 1, let's review a possible arguments against the result. "It doesn't matter what your friend thinks. It matters what you think. You knew the odds were 1/10 despite your lie, so the results reflected that." There are two possible extensions of this argument. 1) Because you "knew" with confidence the odds of picking 1, your energy over-rid your friends energy based, which was based on their belief (perhaps laced with a hint of doubt because it was such an odd request). or 2) Your friend drew a 1 in their reality. But in your reality they didn't. There are infinite realms. You only experience the results of what you believe to be true. Is there a way to test IM actively like this? Or must we request small, likely things, slowly increasing the degree of unlikeliness with each new request? -- I'll end this with a story: A friend of mine has an interesting story. He's a single entrepreneur with no family and only a few distant friends. He subscribes to no religion, but has had a number of supernatural experiences. He befriended and eventually dated a girl who's ex-boyfriend was in jail. It was my friend's understanding that the ex-boyfriend still felt entitled to the girl, despite the girl moving on. When the boyfriend was being released from jail, my friend was a fearful. He decided to take an "extended vacation" in Puerto Rico. No one back in the states knew he was there. Once there, he met people. They invited him to travel to a small island just to enjoy the nature and hang out. My friend went there, and upon arriving, a "friend of a friend" who my friend was only partially familiar with was there. How ironic! As it turns out, through the course of their discussion, the man was in fact the ex-boyfriend. My friend was overcome with fear and disbelief. He couldn't help but feel like he was in a dream.