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Elrond · 08-07-2008, 03:30 AM

^ Seth is in all. Even wikipedia

" * There is a God, whom Seth referred to as "All That Is" and described as a "primary energy gestalt".[9] God is composed of self-replicating and inexhaustible mental energy, and contains all of creation within it. God is therefore a gestalt of all existence, as in Pantheism and Panentheism (a gestalt is a whole which is greater than the sum of its parts). The mental energy of God is the formative substance of all things, including all beings, all universes, and all events and phenomena. God's consciousness is carried on this mental energy, and therefore is omnipresent. Thus, God experiences each life that is lived; "all faces belong to God", as Seth said.[citation needed] For these reasons, all things in existence, including physical matter, have life and consciousness. God wishes to experience existence in all its forms and ramifications, and through its creations is able to do this. God is therefore dynamic and ever-changing and shares in the failures, triumphs, perfections and imperfections of its creations. The individuals that exist within God, though part of God, have free will and self-determination. God does not know of any others like itself, but assumes that something -- possibly another "primary energy gestalt" -- came before it. If God sprang from another like itself, then the possibility exists that there are many Gods, each presumably aware only of its own existence.

* God had a beginning, and there was a creation, though it differs markedly from the Christian version. In God's early stages, the universe existed in a state of potentiality within what Seth referred to as God's dreams. The agony of knowing the potential of the universe, yet not being able to express it, compelled God to find the means to actualize its dreams. Additional impetus was provided by the individuals in its dreams, whom God had imbued with life and consciousness, and who clamored to be made real. In a passage of the Material addressed to Robert Butts, Seth said:

"The first state of agonized search for expression may have represented the birth throes of All That Is as we know It. Pretend, then, that you possessed within yourself the knowledge of all the world's masterpieces in sculpture and art, that they pulsed as realities within you, but that you had no physical apparatus, no knowledge of how to achieve them, that there was neither rock nor pigment nor source of any of these, and you ached with the yearning to produce them. This, on an infinitesimally small scale, will perhaps give you, as an artist, some idea of the agony and impetus that was felt.

"Desire, wish and expectation rule all actions and are the basis for all realities. Within All That Is, therefore, the wish, desire, and expectation of creativity existed before all other actuality. The strength and vitality of these desires and expectations then became in your terms so insupportable that All That Is was driven to find the means to produce them.

"In other words, All That Is existed in a state of being, but without the means to find expression for Its being. This was the state of agony of which I spoke. Yet it is doubtful that without this 'period' of contracted yearning, All That Is could concentrate Its energy sufficiently enough to create the realities that existed in probable suspension within it." (Emphasis in original.)[10]

Seth, ("spirit guide" entity) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

FYI: Many "abers" claim that Seth is part of the Abraham group (Abraham is a group of beings, not a single being). I say that they "claim" because I don't have any direct qoute on that from Abraham on this. My fault really.

Also note this:

"God does not know of any others like itself, but assumes that something -- possibly another "primary energy gestalt" -- came before it. If God sprang from another like itself, then the possibility exists that there are many Gods, each presumably aware only of its own existence."

So not even God knows if something came before him: he does not know if there is a greater "gestalt" that he is indeed a part of.

08-07-2008, 03:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
Elrond Retired Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,112	^ Seth is in all. Even wikipedia " * There is a God, whom Seth referred to as "All That Is" and described as a "primary energy gestalt".[9] God is composed of self-replicating and inexhaustible mental energy, and contains all of creation within it. God is therefore a gestalt of all existence, as in Pantheism and Panentheism (a gestalt is a whole which is greater than the sum of its parts). The mental energy of God is the formative substance of all things, including all beings, all universes, and all events and phenomena. God's consciousness is carried on this mental energy, and therefore is omnipresent. Thus, God experiences each life that is lived; "all faces belong to God", as Seth said.[citation needed] For these reasons, all things in existence, including physical matter, have life and consciousness. God wishes to experience existence in all its forms and ramifications, and through its creations is able to do this. God is therefore dynamic and ever-changing and shares in the failures, triumphs, perfections and imperfections of its creations. The individuals that exist within God, though part of God, have free will and self-determination. God does not know of any others like itself, but assumes that something -- possibly another "primary energy gestalt" -- came before it. If God sprang from another like itself, then the possibility exists that there are many Gods, each presumably aware only of its own existence. * God had a beginning, and there was a creation, though it differs markedly from the Christian version. In God's early stages, the universe existed in a state of potentiality within what Seth referred to as God's dreams. The agony of knowing the potential of the universe, yet not being able to express it, compelled God to find the means to actualize its dreams. Additional impetus was provided by the individuals in its dreams, whom God had imbued with life and consciousness, and who clamored to be made real. In a passage of the Material addressed to Robert Butts, Seth said: "The first state of agonized search for expression may have represented the birth throes of All That Is as we know It. Pretend, then, that you possessed within yourself the knowledge of all the world's masterpieces in sculpture and art, that they pulsed as realities within you, but that you had no physical apparatus, no knowledge of how to achieve them, that there was neither rock nor pigment nor source of any of these, and you ached with the yearning to produce them. This, on an infinitesimally small scale, will perhaps give you, as an artist, some idea of the agony and impetus that was felt. "Desire, wish and expectation rule all actions and are the basis for all realities. Within All That Is, therefore, the wish, desire, and expectation of creativity existed before all other actuality. The strength and vitality of these desires and expectations then became in your terms so insupportable that All That Is was driven to find the means to produce them. "In other words, All That Is existed in a state of being, but without the means to find expression for Its being. This was the state of agony of which I spoke. Yet it is doubtful that without this 'period' of contracted yearning, All That Is could concentrate Its energy sufficiently enough to create the realities that existed in probable suspension within it." (Emphasis in original.)[10] Seth, ("spirit guide" entity) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia FYI: Many "abers" claim that Seth is part of the Abraham group (Abraham is a group of beings, not a single being). I say that they "claim" because I don't have any direct qoute on that from Abraham on this. My fault really. Also note this: "God does not know of any others like itself, but assumes that something -- possibly another "primary energy gestalt" -- came before it. If God sprang from another like itself, then the possibility exists that there are many Gods, each presumably aware only of its own existence." So not even God knows if something came before him: he does not know if there is a greater "gestalt" that he is indeed a part of.