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Originally Posted by Markus74  On the 'ignore' list? Oh, what an honor 
But it's ok, people can ignore the hard questions. They free to do that of course. They've got the right to uphold their illusion if it makes them happy. |
I don’t think anyone is ignoring the hard questions at all. I think the questions are hard and you just don’t like/agree with the answers which is fine, but it is still an answer even if you disagree with it.
I wont pretend to know the answers here. I know my personal options are more inline with JBRU, but I cant be sure. But I chose to align myself with that thinking because I find it more empowering.
As to the do victims attract their victimizer or vice versa. (I know this will be controversial) I think both. Does the mouse attract the cat? Yeah it does because of who/what the cat is and who/what the mouse is. Some mice will do their whole lives never getting eaten, some will get eaten when they are young, and some when they are old, etc.
I think the universe gives us what we can handle and gives us the problems to show us what we need to learn. Now, the process is not always pretty, and we don’t always learn, but the universe is trying to give us the tools to work through life, learn out lessons, grow, and succeed. Some people have financial issues, some people have health issues, some religion issues, and some have emotional issues whether they are brought on by trauma or not.
Now before we start saying, I have no idea what I am talking about, or have not seen horrible things. Let me say, I have. I have worked with crack babies, rape victims, children who have had unspeakable things done to them. I have seen victims rise to the crises and others break from it. Some people let it define them, and other don’t. Regardless, it happened for a reason. Maybe what the person is supposed to learn is how to handle crises, or maybe they are supposed to learn to rise above it to help others, or maybe they attract it to become who they need to be.
I read a fiction book once… The main chapter, who we followed through many books, was rapped, beaten, almost killed repeatedly between the ages of 3 to 8 (give or take). She was not allowed to eat, talk, and her greatest hope everyday was that her dad would come home too drunk to hurt her. The stories take place when she is in her 30s, and as she remembers the childhood she forget when she woke up in a hospital with a broken arm when she was 8 and did not even know her name. About 20 books or so into the series, she finds out that there were some people who knew she was being abused (this is a set in the future) because they were monitoring her father for illegal activities and the government left her there so they did not blow their cover.
Now in her 30s, she is married to a very awesome character who can be very ruthless at times. He is actually the person who finds the info that the government knew and did nothing. He gets all the information on these people and intends to track them down and kill them in painful ways. They get in a huge fight about it, because she tells him, you cant do this, and he says watch me. After days of them arguing about it, he asks how could she not want revenge on the people who let this happen. She tells him. “I want revenge so bad I can taste, I want it so bad I can’t think of anything else. And it scares me.” He still does not get it and she tells him that she became the person she is because of it, and she would not change it. She would go through it all over again to help the people she helped (she is a cop, homicide, lieutenant), to be the person tough as nails, no fear, etc. Because of her childhood experiences she became a person who deeply respects justice and cant just take the law into her own hands, she brings people to justice, she helps people, and most importantly perhaps, she learned helping other peoples helps her.
My point, some people rise, some people fall, but we are all here to learn, and it is part of our journey. We may hate parts of it, and many people don’t want to go through the hard parts, but the human collective consciousness or state of being is still such that we need such. We attract what we need.
I have two ways I can think of it.
1. It is useless and pointless and senseless violence that services no purpose and no good can come out of it.
2. I can choose to believe that the people who go through such atrocities chose it to make them stronger, and hopefully learn something.
So I chose to believe the second one. It is a choice.
Adrienne