Originally Posted by Brutha
And it's false. While you can't change what happened in the past, you can change history.
Well even if 100% would know about that you can't change history knowing that fact. There is an entire profession that is employed in the business of history.
I am not sure if I understand it correct what you write here.
But with my interpretation of it....I have to agree that I defined my point of view incorrect.
Of course I meant that we cant change what happened in the past....so we cant bring all people back to live that died in all the wars that have be fought for the cause of some mad psychopath.
But what many people learn in the "lessons of history at school" is indeed always but a part of what really happened. We never get the hole story if we don't search for it ourselves and stick to what we got at school. Schools are often "run" by govs, and it depend of in what country you live, who is in charge of that country and what kind of external affairs this country maintain with other countries..etc...which part of the story you will be told, and if some lies were added upon the story.
So yes you are right, history changes all the time and is different from country to country etc..
But if we never get the whole complete story at schools, just a part, just a half truth than you can even call those who can give a definition about the holocaust dumb....as they know only the definition and they use the definition to justify the terror of IsraŽl today. And in fact the reason why they teach in Europe about the holocaust is exactly to make Europeans believe that IsraŽl has the right to do what they do, just because all these poor Jews were slaughtered in WWII.
What they never tell in history lessons here is how many Russians died, how many gipsy's died, how many homosexual people died, how many people with a handicap died,....etc....
Why did they only give the Jews IsraŽl and the freedom to do whatever they like to the former inhabitants of what they call IsraŽl today?
Why not a country for Gypsies? Why not a country for people with a handicap? Why not a country for .....all those other groups that have been massacred?
And why did IsraŽl had to be situated in Palestina?
Why didn't they give a part of Europe itself? It were the Europeans that did the slaughtering, not the Palestinians. So if guilt would have been the drive to give the Jews a bit of land, it should have been on European soil.
But of course it wasn't guilt...
So how bad is it if one doesn't know the define the holocaust? It is only a fraction of what happened in the past. It was huge that is for sure, but still compared to the what happened in a whole over the whole time of wwII it was only a part of it. So there were masses more people sacrificed but all forgotten for the sake of IsraŽl.
So that is why I said that knowing how to define the holocaust is not enough to prevent that cruelty from the past repeats today and in the future and untill eternity.
When I left school I only knew about the Jews, now I know a lot more. So I guess it are not the schools that are responsible for what you know. Only for what you can recall from the time you spent there. A good working memory doesn't mean you are smarter. If the only thing your memory contains is what you were told at school and you never tried to broaden in some way, the only thing that makes you different from those who don't know what the holocaust is, is that your were at a different school and/or your memory works better than theirs. So those who were never told what the holocaust was, or who don't remember are not dumber than those who can remember but never ever wondered if there was only one story in the past that had to be remembered...or where we could learn something from.
If i misunderstood again, sorry once more. But with this post it I tried to explain a little clearer what I meant.