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Old 07-10-2008, 06:28 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by infinitethoughts View Post
I never rely on studies. Too many "vested interests", from both sides. (Pro and con.)
You're right. I do rely on peer reviewed science and the power of verifiable results. I'd rather rely on something working when it has worked hundreds of times before. It is, perhaps, a result of my philosophy background and experience in criticizing inductive reasoning. Perhaps part of it has to do with my work in law offices, observing how scammers love a good, but legally barely relevant, case study, and often the lawyers had to justify those case studies with some scientific evidence.

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I'll keep posting what I find about this technology as more and more comes out, which it will. Anybody interested, use common sense, find a good installer, see if they have a guarantee, ask questons, etc.
I'd recommend following the adage caveat emptor. If anyone does buy one of these items and is financially harmed as a result, they should find a good class action lawyer who will work on a contingency fee basis.

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One thing to remember is, there are now Auto repair shops installing it, and I'm sure they're not going to ruin their reputation installing something that is a scam.
I'm skeptical of this claim. If the profit motive is high enough, people will do just about anything. A quick story: I worked for a lawyer representing a doctor. The doctor was accused of committing fraud. He had made claims that products he was selling were effective as *ahem* male enlargement products. The pills had no effect, but he made several hundred thousands of dollars selling them online. He was found guilty and, among other penalties, his medical license was revoked. His reputation? Well, it wasn't worth the speedboat, huge house, cars, and lavish lifestyle.

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(Btw- With the food grade H2O2, I forgot to say you dilute it to 3%, my mistake, and yes you can inhale it with absolutely no problems, because it's food grade and you're inhaling the mist. I've been doing it off and on for years with extremely amazing benefits.)

So I'll end it here, Thoughtaddict, otherwise you an I will have an infinite regress discussion that'll get nowhere.
Ah. A 3% hydrogen peroxide solution is probably okay, as long as you don't have concentrated amounts on mucous membranes for an extended period. The oxygen therapy proponents generally talk about using a 30-35% solution injected, ingested, or exposed to mucous membranes. People have been seriously injured with such treatments. It is good to hear you're not one of them.

I agree that this discussion probably won't bear much fruit. My posts were mainly geared toward presenting the other side of the debate, one based largely around the laws of physics. While it has been enjoyable, I think we both sufficiently understand each other to agree to disagree.

Be well.
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