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Old 11-05-2006, 08:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Hi, I'm a little out of tune now, but I'll try to explain..

First, if you're in conflict with yourself and you eat or not meat, you're still in conflict with yourself. So, the point is not that you can't stop eating meat until you've solved your conflicts, it is that going vegetarian is a way to solve one of these conflicts. Like this: if you are evil and go vegetarian (Hitler ), you are still evil. If you are very loving and not vegetarian, when you become aware that killing animals is not a very loving thing you'll go vegetarian.

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Now but if all other animals are also part of yourself, and animals are eating each other, does that mean that you are still causing suffering in animals?
Like I said with the "when you were a kid" metaphor, you aren't causing harm on purpose if you're not aware of what you're doing,so it's not that bad, but it'll eventually pop up in front of you and you'll have a decision to make about the subject. I don't know 'bout your ideas on animal consciousness, but I believe they'll eventually become aware of it and decide what to do (obviously it won't happen when in a carnivore body).

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Does that mean that you can reach such a high a level of awareness where even animals will stop eating other animals?
They won't stop eating each other, but you'll learn to see it differently and love it the way it is. If your child does something to see how it's like (the child is unaware) and it hurts you, it's not evil, it's unawareness. The same happens when animals follow their instincts. They do it because they do it, they're not aware of all that is happening as a consequence of their instincts.

First you love what is directly good to you, then you love all that comes from a good intent, then you learn to love all that is, good and evil (the most difficult part, in my opinion).

OK, that's it. Again, it's just my opinion. I might be completely wrong

(And I'm moving and there's no internet at my new house, so I might take a week to answer anything)
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