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Old 07-10-2008, 02:16 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Thanks. Though the shift from 60-40 government to 60-40 corporate is of some concern, this doesn't support a disregard of peer reviewed science. Rather, the appropriate course of action would be to scrutinize the ambitions of the people involved in a particular piece of research. As always, never rely on a single study.

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Oxygen therapy is a biggie. Last I heard one had to go to Mexico for treatment. (This may have changed.) Cancer cells cannot live in an oxygen rich environment.

There's even a cheap way to inhale oxygen, (food grade hydogen peroxide, which is water with an extra oxygen atom attached.)
Prostate cancer cured by inhaling H202.

80 years ago in India, it was used to cure a pneumonia epidemic.
Hydrogen peroxide? Ingest hydrogen peroxide? No. This is not only wrong, it is dangerous. This probably goes back to Otto Warburg's 1930 Nobel prize in which he discovered anaerobic cancer cells. He hypothesized that, perhaps, oxygen could be used to treat cancer. Subsequent research found that cancer can grow in oxygen rich environments as well as oxygen poor environments. The total oxygen increase that could be attained throughout the body through this method would be limited, probably less than a 10% increase.

Food grade hydrogen peroxide (30%) is caustic. It can burn the skin. Ingested, it can cause vomiting, internal burns of the throat and stomach, and, in severe cases, death. Injected hydrogen peroxide of this concentration would increase oxygen, but would create air bubbles in the veins, leading to embolisms.

The two links you posted were to sites that had case studies. The second failed to provide any sources through which one could verify the information, and contained a number of scientific misstatements and errors. One quick example is that H2O2 is used by white blood cells. The mechanism is actually superoxide released in small amounts. Superoxide, in large amounts, is also toxic. One of the sources the second page cites as support is a Baylor University of Medicine study: "And more recently, doctors at Baylor University proved the effectiveness of hydrogen peroxide therapy against many more diseases, including clogged arteries."

Two things here: First, if there is such a conspiracy by universities, why would Baylor be studying it? Did a research team not get the memo from the corporations? Secondly, the page lied. The article is available for free here: Arachidonic acid metabolites, hydrogen peroxide, and EDHF in cerebral arteries -- You et al. 289 (3): H1077 -- AJP - Heart and Circulatory Physiology The team did not research the effectiveness of hydrogen peroxide therapy at all, much less on "many more diseases". Rather, they tested for a correlation between vasodilation and various substances to try and discover a yet-unknown vasodilator for treating circulatory diseases. It had absolutely nothing to do with inhaling hydrogen peroxide and, even if it had, would have been evidence against the theory.

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Kumbucha tea, from the Tibetan mountains. Which is green tea fermented. The fermentation process vastly increases the potency of the extreme health benefits of green tea.

This company was created because it's founder's Mother beat breast cancer by drinking it.
Looks interesting. A cure for cancer, though? Many people with cancer recover, and we're not entirely sure why some people do and others die. One person surviving does not scientific credibility make. The site sells the product, and so has a direct monetary interest in advertising their case study.

Case studies along do not prove scientific fact. I'll stick with verifiable, repeatable results.

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But these cures have no monetary value, (H202 costs pennies on the dollar to produce) hence are of no use to the present Financial Medical Infrastructure.
Trust me, if it worked, they'd find a way to patent it, restrict it, and sell it for thousands of dollars a pop.

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LOL.....The deafening silence of Corporate funded scientific community. But I'll not get into that.
I will. I have friends who work doing medical research. Some of them are corporate funded, some are not. These people some of the most passionate, caring friends I have. They care little for financial gain; two took substantial, upper six figure pay cuts to work looking for cures. They'd gladly sacrifice more to help their patients. Even though they are working in research, they have to watch people slowly die as they take samples, run tests, and pray for a cure. The notion that they're covering up simple cures because of some corporate masters is off base to the point of insulting. It also disregards the deafening silence in reputable journals overseas and reputable independent research labs.

Curious. The stories are interesting. I've picked two at random from PESWiki: Ken Rasmussen and Charles Nelson Pogue. For Ken Rasmussen, I did a search of newspapers from the county where he lived and was supposedly confronted. Nothing in any newspapers. Nothing in any of the police notices. He was run off the road, his life and family threatened, and he did... nothing. Except tell people who would plaster it on the internet, of course...
As for Charles Pogue, I'll let the non-corporate funded snopes take this one: snopes.com: Miracle Carburetor

If these stories were true, it would take tens of thousands of people participating in a conspiracy, all of whom would have sufficient documentation to blow it wide open. If they did so, they'd have wide-reaching support from all corners. They'd be a world hero. It is unrealistic to think such a conspiracy exists.
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