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Originally Posted by infinitethoughts  Which is my understanding of it also. There is no new reaction, it's simply the addition of Hydrogen that adds more fuel to burn. |
If we have two oxidation reactions, one in which hydrogen combines with oxygen and one in which octane combines with oxygen, and there is no new chemical reaction or modification of either current reaction, then how is there any more energy? The idea of running fuel lean is a noteworthy possibility (more oxygen than fuel for complete combustion), but that doesn't require relatively inefficient hydrolysis...
I always have found it odd how the main people providing claims of "Brown's Gas" are the ones seeking to make money off of it...
Oxy-hydrogen welding has been around for quite a while. It is often used on soft metals with low melting points. It is considered by welders and chemists as poor for welding steel or other alloys with a high melting point because the flame has a lower temperature than oxy-acetylene (3500 C for acetylene, 2800 for oxy-hydrogen). Additionally, oxy-hydrogen torches have the problems of flame size and loss of heat later in the flame due to steam.
The HHO structure of Brown's Gas is deceptive. In reality it is not HHO, but 2 H2 + O2. The chemical form of HHO would require one H atom to have 2 valence electrons (physically impossible, since H only has 1 electron), and O to have only 1 valence electron (again, impossible unless everything we know about chemical bonding is wrong). H2 exists because the highest valence level hydrogen has is the first. The first level is satisfied by 2 electrons, so each atom can contribute their one electron for stability. The highest valence level for oxygen requires 8 electrons. O bonds with O, sharing 2 of their 6 electrons each. The resulting bond has 4 shared electrons and 4 unshared at the ends of each, resulting in each atom having a full valence shell of 8. H2O works because both hydrogen share their one with oxygen, which shares one for each of the H atoms. The result is that both H atoms are fulfilled with 2 and the O is fulfilled with 8. HHO, on the other hand, would require either H2 to bond with O, which is inexplicable since H2 is stable, or OH to bond with H, which would make sense except that OH could not exist independently (outside of hydroxides existing as ions in a basic solution), as it would be atomically unstable and would seek stability in its valence shell. 2 H2 + O2, on the other hand, makes sense. It isn't a new compound, but just an explanation of what we already know...
A search of ACS's database of articles for HHO yields no results for any such compound. Similarly of a physics database of peer review. If this is such a revolutionary chemical compound, why so little interest in the academic scientific community? Seriously... the private college I attended jumped at any new discovery which could make waves while being credibly defended. There are hundreds of thousands of academics whose careers require articles on things like this, if they can be proven and defended...
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He's convinced the reason there are a lot of scammers is vested interests are trying to blind and confuse, an Action that has been used countless times in history.
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Oil companies are paying people to put out ineffective designs? LOL. Might explain why Brown's gas is on Fox news?
