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Old 07-03-2008, 01:32 PM   #672 (permalink)
mercuryrising
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Originally Posted by John Freestone View Post
I look forward to it, mercury. You're a darn sight better meditation teacher than many I've come across, assuming it's true. I may just be floundering about in the foothills and about to start another ascent! What I don't get is this 'expanded awareness' thing. I mean, yeah, much of it makes perfect sense, and I feel fairly confident that I've done enough practise to know stillness. It's just that in that indescribable nowness, I don't find expansion - certainly I don't find the experience of unity with everything, I haven't had any psychic experience, nothing. It's bottomless, endless, formless, sometimes joyful, beautiful, for sure, but it doesn't give me a reliable feeling that I'm in touch with ALL, or that my awareness is 'God', as you so effortlessly equate them. When I really look at the raw experience, it is wonderfully free of my categorising mind, but I still have a feeling that I'm me and you're you, genetic constructions, and that we are going the way of all flesh after these delightful contemplations about being God end.

Thanks for the compliment. I am floundering in the foothills myself. Teaching is the best way I learn.

You are not your thinking. And while I believe you when you say you've had some great meditation experiences, you're still up in your head (Not that you are the only one, by any means. You're just particularly good at it.). Here is an example:

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Infinitethoughts just posed a similar one, that if you ask where a thought comes from and where it goes to: 'You'll see that it comes and goes from your "infiniteness" (for lack of a better word.)' With all due respect, the lack of a better word is not sufficient reason to conjour the words 'your infiniteness' out of thin air. Could you give me any idea, infinitethoughts, why we should consider that possibility over 'bio-chemical emergency' (meaning that my bodymind found biological reasons for constructing a thought due to the particular circumstances in which it found itself, for the purposes of trying to navigate itself through the next ten minutes the best way it could)?

You didn't try what he was saying. Instead, you thought about it. Enlightenment doesn't come in the thought of enlightenment or anything else for that matter, but through the transcendence of thought.

The paradox is that to expand your awareness, you have to put all your focus on one point. In truth, it can be any point. You can think of poop on a stick with complete one-pointedness and POW, it happens.
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