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Old 07-02-2008, 11:43 PM   #654 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by wolfgang View Post
This sounds like if IM fails for you in some way, you are OK with that.

This sounds like if IM ideas fail, you are not interested in life anymore

Which is it?
Two separate issues.

- If IM fails there's not a damn thing I can do about it, no matter my beliefs.

- A universe conforming exactly to materialist expectations/understanding is completely incompatible with what I feel at the core of my soul (if there is such a thing ). I have never felt as if I belonged here, my deeper intuitions and beliefs have never been compatible with the "cold hard truths" I was told. I believe the appeal of IM is that it would certainly exist, to some degree and in some way, in "my world". Without it, or perhaps I should say without any "metaphysical" element, I'm just a rather pathetic model of we mostly-deluded meat puppets who infest this rock.

I have only two choices - I don't know the blanket term for my preferred philosophy, but the other would be nihilism.

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Once you have gone through and cleaned up your subconscious, there might be less "need" to do IM.
Maybe so, but the foregoing would still trump all other considerations for me.

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It's a little scary to hear you say this eager to die part.
I'm not suicidal, but I felt I should use powerful words to express my feeling. I can never accept the "fundamaterialist" view, for many reasons beside IM. That world view is poison to me.
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