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Originally Posted by SonoranBob 
As a Christian you should know better than to denigrate people who have an honest disagreement with you as "weird". You are not having a private conversation with one of your homies here. We can all read it. And contrary to popular misconception, attempted shaming is not an effective technique of persuasion.
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You're right. I was out of line and thanks for pointing it out in such a nice way. I think I had just read something that irritated me and I guess I was reacting too quickly to it. I need to learn not to post as a gut reaction.
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Originally Posted by SonoranBob I know there are some who are arrogant here, regarding their intellect (real or imagined). But there are also people of good conscience here who have honest questions or problems with your particular version of belief in god. Do you disrespect them so much you are just going to blow them off and dismiss them all as stiff-necked evildoers? |
I don't think I blew anyone off or think of them as evil doers, just burnt out with reading too much, I guess. There are some very intelligent people here, including you.
But to be honest, when it comes to Christians, I have not found many that don't think they know all about what I am and what I believe in a stereotypical way. My honest thoughts, why I believe what I do and the conclusions I have reached, are usually blown of by you, and others as originating from someone else or as being out of some kind of handbook for Christians to use on non-Christians.
I don't even know who Bill Bright is. If it happens that he and I both "can't wrap out mind around", (to use your terminology, instead of calling it weird) the way some people try to pick out truth from a book they think is full of lies, then that he and I agree denigrates what I think to the level of being merely propaganda and no effort is made to help me understand.
If I had such an opinion of a book, I would use it in the fireplace, not try to prove hell doesn't exist from it and throw out all the references to the final judgment as lies, as was an actual conversation I had with someone here. I need to expand my vocabulary for sure. But I see the logic of that process as weird or unfathomable to me.
As do I see proposing that God created our physical reality, created us in part, but was "hands off" concerning the realities of our emotional and thought processes. Even outside a Biblical reference, I think to believe that a person has to step over everything else that is seen in creation, of like creating like, seeds bearing seeds, children in the image of their parents, etc. I can understand not believing in a God at all better than I can understand believing in a God that is different from what He created, just from what I see as the logical possibilities.
There is nothing new under the sun so if some other prominent Christian has said that too or you are bored with the argument because you have heard it before, it still happens to be what I actually think and not from a Sunday school bulletin or something.