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Originally Posted by wolfgang  But what about reality as we think we know it already? Is gravity to be considered natural? Why is that? Because we have an equation that works for us? Is that a cause? No. That's just an equation. It's a causal relationship that repeats itself. But there's still a mystery about gravity. What says masses have to exert force on each other? We say it's a law, that just is. But we still don't really know why it is. Gravity particles?
So, if someone comes up with an quantifying equation for an IM exercise and tests it to the point of an equation that works for us - will that show us the cause? Or just be an equation like gravity? And there might already be approximations for IM type results. Something about a certain number of TM practitioners per city and crime rate going down, comes to mind. One could make an equation out of that - a mathematical relationship that links TM to crime rate. Is that a causal link? maybe, ha? But would we know why or what makes that happen? Peace mind particles? |
I've added emphasis to your post, wolfgang, to show how different IM is to gravity. Yep, gravity is a bit mysterious yet. However, we can calculate the trajectory of a spacecraft accurately enough to land men on the moon. IM - has anyone got anything like 'an equation that works for us', or 'a causal relationship that repeats itself'?
The big different between these phenomena is that gravitational mathematics, theories, equations, proposed particles, etc., while they may be best guesses, have been devised purely to explain repeated, predictable experience, so reliable that no-one argues about whether it is real or not. We experience it so widely, with such clarity, the same in function everywhere (though differing in strength), that we call it a natural phenomenon, and the mathmatics that fit with it PERFECTLY EVERY TIME 100%, a law. The Law of Attraction is a sparkly dolphin in comparison, an imaginitive construction.
Did you say relates TM to crime rate - what, Transcendental Meditators reduce crime? I suppose you could theoretically test such a ridiculous theory if you selected, say, a thousand cities and measured those things. You may be able to establish a relationship between them, but it is unlikely you would establish a causal direction. I suspect that TM practitioners live mainly in Western, industrial cities, where crime rate may be higher, due to other features, such as economic pressure. You see the problem with social science, as someone pointed out, is that there are so many variables. Maybe after a few more fantasies about what IM or TM or QXZ might possibly be the cause of, the apple might drop.