Originally Posted by Radical
Credible proof for something like this would bring hope to millions of people who are lost, confused, and fed up with life. By proving the existence of OBE's you would be doing the world a great service.
Like Radical. Methinks that's why he's here.
But, Radical, there's a very good reason that we are unable to prove the existence of non-physical realms and existence: It's so that we maintain our focus here in the physical in order that we best learn the lessons we came here to learn.
Absolute knowledge of an afterlife -- especially one where all our fondest dreams and desires can become reality simply by thinking about them -- would be a complete detriment to the very purpose of physical incarnation, which is to slow down the vibrations of existence to more closely study the process; to study love, relationships, and the illusions of separation, to learn empathy and erase bad karma through leading difficult and challenging lives.
For the limited, waking ego personality to have scientific proof that there's a way easier, nicer, and better place to exist than this cold and seemingly uncaring Universe would be like telling your kids they don't have to go to school if they'd rather spend the day at Disneyland with a free pass! Human beings would be leaping from bridges and buildings left and right to get the hell out of here and back to where things are wonderful and blissful at all times.
Only problem is, once we arrived, we soon awaken to our higher selves, which would all realize what a mistake we'd made in abandoning our "education." Much like the emancipated minor who drops out of high school, scoffs at the idea of college, and then realizes when he's pushing 40 how much richer his life might be had he taken his education seriously.
The physical universe was set up this way for very good reason. We all need to focus on our current realities. Afterlife or oblivion awaits us either way. I choose to believe in reincarnation and karma and subjective reality because not only does it give purpose to my personal existence, but gives purpose to the existence of everything. Atheism is really just another illusion taken on by a personality who needs a device to keep them from misdirecting their focus on metaphysical realities. Why else would Radical be hanging around these forums. He's like a recovering alcoholic who still hangs out in bars but orders soft drinks and brags about how he's still on the wagon. But in reality, he's really there to smell the whiskey.
Radical, don't worry about all this stuff. Just go live your life and face challenges and overcome obstacles. It's okay to not believe in anything. All I would encourage you to do is simply to always allow for the possibility that you may be wrong, and that although not scientifically provable, it's at least possible that your consciousness will continue to exist beyond physical death. This will help you make the transition to non-physical realms much easier. You can still tell everyone your a loyal atheist if you like. What matters is that deep down, you maintain that it's possible.
Finally, if you want some scientific proof of something, consider this: It is IMPOSSIBLE for something to come from NOTHING. The Big Bang theory claims this; that before the Big Bang that created the Universe, there was NOTHING. As a scientist, you know this is impossible. You cannot get something from a complete absence of anything. That means that SOMETHING had to exist somewhere prior to the Big Bang. What that something was is debatable. And if it wasn't something physical, then it was a SOMETHING that was NON-physical. And what might that be but some huge, non-physical cosmic consciousness, perhaps? The Big G, perhaps?
What about black holes? Where does all that matter go that get's sucked into them? Nowhere? Something cannot become NOTHING anymore than the other way around. The only possible explanation is that the physical matter gobbled up by black holes is either transformed into a non-physical form (perhaps its vibrations are sped up to create new personalities and entities) or it's fed into other universes on other dimensional planes to create new physical matter.
All that will be as it is. What's important is for us to focus on the lives we currently live and to live out our full potential. ~ RS