[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by cylon

wolfgang how do you know this is not how other people go about it?

hmm... I didn't try to cast this as everyone doing IM is doing it wrong but just stating how I've come to take it all in. I would think many are looking at it like it seems you and I are approaching it. And it is great to point out in case someone has not thought about the trickster ego mind too much.

These are huge issues. Ego vs Higher Self, Abundance mindset vs Scarcity Mindset.... and everyone has their own take based on their own individuality.

I don't think ego is where true desires come from. I believe that is your highest self... which wants love, abundance, creativity, all the big stuff. I know that's what I want.

Ego in my opinion actually gets in the WAY of IM. A big subject is money. IM says, you deserve just like everyone else deserves. For many people their ego says they DON'T deserve. So they may start IM or intending for abundance, and what happens? Their ego sabatoges it. It says "no, I am not worth having abundance. That's only for people who work hard. If I don't work hard, I don't deserve". Then your intention stops dead in it's track.

Good reiteration of those ideas. I would say that ego getting in the way of IM is not just your opinion but the crux of the matter as fact. Even without the woo-woo side to LoA, there is psychological basis for how habitual behavior, conditioned minds generate suffering.

This is why IM is interesting for me because it makes you take a look at your habits so as to be "unblocked". That is a good thing. Of coarse, I wonder, once I can be totally "unblocked" what's left to desire or "need"? The state of being unblocked is also a state of love, abundance, creativity... yes?

Ego tends to get in the way of manifesting your true desires.

You talk about the natural state of flowing, and I think that's where this all comes from anyway. I think the practices of IM and visualizing, everything else, are little "tricks" designed to go AROUND your ego (who would make excuses why you couldn't have stuff) and eventually weaken it to the point that you are more or less in your natural, happy, abundant, in the moment state.... which is where things tend to flow.

So then once in flow, we don't feel lack or the "need". And we have made a flip into a different way of being, really. Less ego and more feeling whole.