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Originally Posted by Arboretor  Thanks for the tip, maxdof. Looks like an interesting read, but it will take a week or two until it arrives here.
Does he also disprove the Placebo effect? |
Hello,
Well, did you read the book? If not, consider this (this is my understanding of it):
Take hypnosis and consider it as self persuasion. You are looking for your keys and you definitly don't find it, though they are in the table in front of you since the beginning. You look for you glasses, and they were on your nose... Very little exemples. How come did you look for your glasses in the whole room as they were on your nose? Were you hypnotized?
YouTube - Derren Brown Invisible
Secondly, all the show, misdirections, playing with the caracters, etc... helps it and on this part hypnosis is at the same level of magic.
Now, how oneself can have surgeries without painfree medicamention, with only hypnosis?
In the book Derren Brown, says that through self persuasion and hard conscience work about it, same results obtaind by hypnosis could (or has been) attained. I don't remember if he brings sources or proofs about that.
Remember that Derren Brown is a 'normal' guy who loves to look at all intriguing activities: magic, mind reading, hypnosis, etc... etc... and recreate them. He studies or studied them hard, and redo it. That is how he made believe to huge New Age scam influent people that he was: the inventor of a dream machine (that catches your dreams), be a medium, be someones who converts people in one touch to the believe of God, and others.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Btw by recreating them he proves it is all fake, over other stuffs interesting for people who look for the real truth, and not for the real scam.
Now, placebo? He doesn't disprove the placebo effect, because placebo has effect under circonstances. Finally it would have as much effect as if someone was hypnotized when we give him the placebo pill and saying: "THIS IS THE MEDICAMENT YOU NEED". The placebo effect proves the power of the mind. More interesting, homeopathy, which clames to cure whatever scam you want to scamly cure with this scam, is proved to be as efficient as placebo. Placebo has an effect, the effect you can produce to yourself, thinking you are correctly being cured. Scams have placebo effect ( + false hope + disappointment or a false understanding of the world, which is sad).
Feel free to share with me (PM) about the book
Max