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Old 06-04-2008, 11:55 PM   #379 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Dave Kaminski View Post
I checked it out, and what a waste of time. Mythology is a part of history, I wish people didn't warp it to defend their points of view.

Virgin, Isis? That's an aberration, and I only got to the first secons.

Isis is one of the most highly sexual goddesses of Antiquity. The legends say she conceived Horus by copulating with the momified Osiris. There are even engravings about that. First one, wrong.

Isis is NOT known as Isis-Meri. I don't know where this information was got, but Isis is not registered as Meri. Nowhere. Not in Egypt. Next:

Birth location: a cave is not the same as a stable, and I still have to check out where in the Egyptian mythology it is said that Horus was born in a cave. As far as I know, his place of birth isn't stated.

Birth coincidences: ALL five major Egyptian gods had been born in the last five days of the Egyptian calendar, which had 360 days, not only Horus.

The 25th of December really was the date of birth of many Roman sun divinities, and the Roman Christians copied it. Sure. But then, the parallelisms are, as I said, with Mithras. Not with Horus.

The rest does not appear in any Egyptian legend or scripture.

Isis was the one who resurrected Osiris, NOT Horus.

No Egyptian chronicle talks about Horus starting his preaching at age 12. The other miracles do not appear in any Egyptian chronicle either. The main source for this is Gerald Massey. No wonder.

There were no two thieves where Horus died, because in Egyptian mythology, Horus never died: Osiris was killed by Set. Horus was never killed. Therefore, he didn't resurrect, and therefore his resurrection was not announced by women.

About the gods being saviours, that's what all gods are: you can find that comparison with Ahura Mazda and Brahma, too. But Horus did NOT have the title of Saviour. Among all the titles he had, he didn't have that one.

It IS true that there is a common portrayal of Isis with her child Horus. It is also true that when Christians found one of these portrayals, whether painted or sculpted, of a beautiful woman with a child, they thought "It must be the virgin Mary", since it was a woman with a child, though dark-skinned. That is why there are many "black virgin" statues in Europe: they were Isis sculptures, or copies of them. However, and then again: Isis wasn't virgin in Egyptian mythology. It is specified that she had sex with Osiris, that her sister disguised herself as Isis to have sex with Osiris, and that Isis herself conceived Horus by having sex with Osiris. Of all these mistakes, the making a virgin of Isis is the one that bothers me the most. Isis was one of the first kickass female characters of fiction: she was powerful, wise, mastered magic, was a goddess of her own right, and was as loyal as highly sexual. She is a great antithesis to Mary, who is submissive, virginal, and whose only merit was being chosen.

Argh... I don't know why people have to be so ignorant. The fish associated to Jesus is the anagram ichthys, which in Greek letters stands from Jesus's, christ, god's son, saviour. This is frustrating, and all the more because people believe it without checking a damn fact.

Again, this video mentions Zeitgeist (unsurprisingly), and uses the main source of Zeitgeist: Gerald Massey. Wonderful.

Does it take that much effort to check out it's not from Horus, but from Mithra, that early Roman Christians copied and added to the figure of Jesus?

It's not the flaw that bothers me... It's the fact that everyone believes this stuff without checking a single fact out.

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