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Old 06-04-2008, 03:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
Chado2423
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1) "superficial" things like reading is a lot different that eating right and exercising. eating right and exercising are activities that the body takes, reading is the mind taking in something. Reading is usually a low energy state and eating better and exercising can be an energy elevating thing. Energy, as in amount of energy being used by the body. Higher energy flowing through one's body helps depression.

2) having a meaning in life is sometimes exactly eating right and exercising - .the meaning of life is to find optimal eating and exercising

3) heart and soul LOVE moving the body!! There is no way to feel moved by spirit and having lightness of being while thinking doing things that help raise your energy are not going to effect you.

4) soul searching includes using your body, climbing a hill or learning a dance move, or being able to put yourself in deep nature that takes physical effort.

5) the root of the problem is thinking and rejecting that eating right, moving the body, getting out in nature - does nothing for your sense of purpose. All that does, very much so.


Maybe you need to get angry. There's the idea that depression is a low energy state. Next here's high energy state of being angry that is really depression with more energy. Then it's easier to slide into happy as a high energy state. It's hard to go straight from depression to energetically happy, in other words, much less going from depressed to peaceful feelings. Once there's a feeling of energetically happy, one can slide over to low energy happy, which is peace. So go get pissed off! damn it!!
1. Answer me this? How does excercise and eating right helkp me with my relationship with my family? How does it help me to determine what I want/should be doing with my life? How does it help lift me out of the slump into that so called "attitude of expectancy" Wolfgang, I just don't get it. Moving the body is good for excercise like I said, but I stick to my original question. I have no friends, I have an unsupportive family, family I am actually beginning to despise. I am in debt. I cry daily.

2. the meaning of life is to find optimal eating and exercising. I really don't agree. If my relationships are terrible and we argue almost every day "about my depression btw."-- almost like its wrong to be depressed, almost like my love for ex wasn't important... well it was important TO ME! DAMN IT!

3. heart and soul LOVE moving the body!! There is no way to feel moved by spirit and having lightness of being while thinking doing things that help raise your energy are not going to effect you.--- hmmmm? I'm glad you have such love for your body, but my body is just that: A Body. And I can see on one level where you might be right.... but that would only be if you had other things going for you such as a job and friends. I don't have that.


4. soul searching includes using your body, climbing a hill or learning a dance move, or being able to put yourself in deep nature that takes physical effort. (I just don't agree, sorry.)

5. Again don't agree.

Wolfgang thanks for trying, but I just don't see it. How can you prove to me that more excercise and eating right is going to help me with my relationships with family and friends (which is what I am most depressed about anyway.) My mom and I don't get along very well ever since I became depressed, but i have to live with her, becaus eI have no source of income. We're getting ready to move, NOT MY CHOICE... and I have to go along for the ride. I don't feel like a fully functioning capable adult like I used to.

My life is going nowhere, and I'm getting there fast. I feel like I have little to no control over my life.

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