[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by Alfred saforo

I am surpried no one has challenged this ridiculous post. I have written a rebutal on my own site

A rebuttal, sweet. I've been waiting for one of those actually.

It seems like most people have just been crying about the tone of Steve's post instead of challenging any of the actual content. Let's get it on!

The Bible speaks of people Like Steve Pavlina so those of us who know our scriptures are not swayed by his narrow minded atheism. Steve, is nothing but a follower of a religion himself, he probably doesn't even know it. Atheism is a religion in its own right.

Well, Steve isn't Atheist.

In fact, in the article he clearly expresses that to identify oneself with a specific, limiting belief system is disempowering, a bane to personal growth.

Did you even actually read the article?

The bible warns us of people like Steve. In Mathew chapter 24:11 the Bible says " Many false prophets will rise up and deceive many."

Steve doesn't claim to be a prophet. He also doesn't preach violence or hate. He doesn't claim to be speaking for God. The false prophet label, does however, fit many Christian ministers.

A false prophet, as you use the term, sounds more like the pastors of the Christian Megachurchs who are trying to start WWIII. You know, because they think that's what God wants!

Using God's name in vain means just that: It's to use the name of God for hateful, destructive, mean spirited interests.

A false prophet is someone who claims to be speaking for God, but instead of preaching love and compassion he or she preaches violence and hate.

Like Hitler! Guess what religion Hitler was? Yep, Christian.

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."

The Lord works in mysterious ways, eh?!

Remember, Hitler was only defending himself against those evil Jews. Wait, it seems I've heard that somewhere else recently. Gosh, where was that?

There are hundreds if not thousands of historical examples that prove that Jesus And Moses And Abraham etc... really existed. Christianity today Can be backed up by historical facts and the bible is capable of holding it's own against any History book. Christianity is not based on myth. Check your facts Steve.

Diseases are caused by demons then?

A mute could talk after having the demon driven out (Matthew 9:32).
A "demon-possessed" man who was blind and mute is cured by Jesus (Matthew 12:22).
A demon caused seizures (epilepsy) in a boy (Matthew 17:14-18).
A group of spirits caused a man to be insane (Mark 5:1-13).
A spirit crippled a woman (Luke 13:11).

The Earth was created in seven days?

Where did Dinosaur bones come from?

God wants us to stone adulterers?

On a side note, are you this obsessed with all history books, or just ones that say they will save your soul? Because I can recommend some good history books to you, but they only teach history, they don't claim to be a free pass into Heaven.

Life and the reason why we are here, are only elusive concepts to people who have nothing to believe in. Atheists.

Atheists have plenty to believe in. They have an entire universe of intricate natural sciences and a complex web of human relationships to explore.

I am here because God put me here. And he put me here for a reason. To worship him.

It sounds like God is pretty desperate for attention!

I have freedom to choose to do the right. Freedom, not to conform to societal norms. Freedom and mental clarity is all that Christianity is about. True Christians are free from the chains of alcohol, drugs, fornication, adultery and all things that the world celebrates.

That doesn't exactly sound like freedom.

How exactly would you define fornication? Is that any time that people have sex outside of marriage? What about masturbation? Is that fornication too? What about sex after divorce? What about sex after annulment?

I will bet that 99.99% of the people who are in prison today for sex crimes against children are atheists like you. They are people who are lost and have nothing to believe in and no moral standard to subscribe to because the world has been overcome by smooth talkers (false prophets) like you who would have us believe there is no God. No wonder our prisons are overflowing with criminals.

As someone who has worked with prison ministry, I can tell you without a doubt that nine out of ten prisoners are Christian. Nearly all of them have "found God."

How much it says about you that you are so ready and willing to bash prisoners. How sad that is. Wouldn't God want you to minster to people in jail, instead of calling them names?

You do know that Jesus was a criminal, right?

So who knows how old the earth really is? certainly not you Steve and definitely not science.

You are typing "Science doesn't know anything!" on your blog. I wonder, does that strike you as a bit ironic? You are publishing over the internet, from your home personal computer. You probably own a car and cell phone as well.

It sounds to me like science knows a whole lot more than you give it credit for.

Radio carbon dating of rocks is struggling to hold its own against new scientific methods. If you believe in all the man made drivel that has been fed to you by science you should actually concede (if you are as wise as you think you are) that there is a God.

Huh? Did you just say scientific methods are struggling to hold their own against scientific methods?

How dare you! with your puny human mind try to comprehend what the Almighty God can do.

Uh-oh, here comes angry, vindictive God! I guess a long Christian tirade wouldn't be complete without that.

Your puny human mind that I created has angered me! Rawr!!

Maybe God is a Velociraptor. They were pretty smart dinosaurs, you know.

Do you know what lies at the very bottom of the sea? do you know what causes you to be conscious? Have you counted the stars in the universe? what is the smallest particle that quantum physics cannot find? what is inside a quark or a lepton? Have you asked yourself what was there before the Big bang? Of course not, you are an atheist you don't even know why you are here.

Again, Steve is not atheist. And none of the things you mention say anything about religious institutions.

However, I also realise that this is an attempt by you to generate more traffic to your site. Well done. You got my attention.

That's always a convenient fall-back isn't it. The author who gets 2.4 million visitors per month to his site wrote the article for the traffic.

If you want to stir up a bit of controversy why don't you try and find out the 10 reasons why Atheism and atheists like you are eroding the moral fabric of society.

If everyone was atheist, the world would be a much better place.

Without God, murder is forbidden by human law; it is only for those acting on behalf of God, that everything is permitted.

I have nothing to loose in having faith in the teachings of Jesus and believing that there is a God. I am a better person because of it.

Nothing to lose except your freedom, intellect, respect for others, love and joy. Nothing to lose except everything, it seems.

To you it may seem like foolishness but then again what do you know? ...but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness.- 1 Cor 1:23.

More Christian disempowerment. Why would God be so mocking and derisive? Is that really the God you believe in?

Amen!

Ramen to you too, friend.