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Originally Posted by David Hausladen The original reason for that was that my body wanted to go to bed late (at least 2am) but I wanted to wake up well before sunrise (hence 5am). The days when I've gotten it to work (which there haven't yet been too many of), it's provided plenty of energy for the day. |
That's real interesting. I'm beginning to pay attention to how I feel energy wise over longer periods of time than just one day, related to one night/day's sleep. Not at all sure what to make of it

at this point, but it's beginning to look to me like the overall energy level/focus/feeling of well being--all that we want from good sleep

may have as much to do with how the past several days or a week ???? have gone as how the surrounding 24 hours have gone. Anyone have ideas, experience with this notion?
Why do you think things "don't work?", when that's what seems to be happening?.... just to pose a not so rhetorical question--i.e., what gets in the way?
For me, it seems most often a matter of discipline--not following through on what I plan to do--because of distractions, not the best (but not the worst) energy/focus...only rarely a matter of overwhelming sleepiness or fatigue.
That's what I think, anyway. It's not dramatic. On the other hand, maybe the effect on focus/energy can be more than realized, dunno.
A related question: what does it mean for this "to work"? It could be that we can aim for a particular thing when we actually want something else (e.g., we want restful sleep, energy/focus/health during the day and we are aiming for numbers of hours, etc.---maybe the mechanism is actually a bit different than we think) Makes it all a pretty interesting experiment.
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Originally Posted by David Hausladen When I wake up without my alarm now, I can be fairly confident that it's because it hasn't gone off yet (whereas before it meant it went off and I got up, turned it off, and went back to sleep). It's a very relieving feeling that tells me what I'm doing is not unnatural at all to my body. |
Yah, that's great. I'm also waking before my alarm almost all the time. Only the last day or so have I woken quite a while before it's been due to go off, something new, we'll see what that's about.....
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Yesterday, got a nap in fine, then not as rested as I have been for my "short day" (what I've come to call my "second day, between nap and nightsleep

). So took a shower, did a few things, thought about what the best things to do during this period might be if nothing else is going on--it's evening so if we're watching a movie, having company, going out that's different than a usual workday evening. Still want to use the time well but there are many ways to do that.
Then this morning, really tired for some reason. Awakened fully then made a conscious decision to sleep another cycle--345 to 515. Not sure what that was about, but I woke up, as seems at the moment usual, at 505 and got up.
I do think that we have to be flexible with the various things that affect people's sleeping patterns. Makes sense to add and subtract in cycles(I call them 90 minute cycles and log them as such, but there's a 5 to 15 minute earlier pattern of awakening, most if not totally all of the time. Easier to see them as 90 minute cycles)
Anyone have ideas or experience with the questions above?
Happy sleeping!
Day 21 12/5 Tues Nap 530-7P//1:30 +7:30=8:30hrs/5Cycles
Day 20 12/4 Mon Nap 5-630P//1:30 + 4.30=6:00hrs/4Cycles
Day 19 12/3 Sun NO NAP//7:30hrs/5Cycles NO NAP
Day 18 12/2 Sat Nap 8-930P//1:30 + 4:30 =6:00hrs/4Cycles
Day 17 12/1 Fri Nap 8:30-10P//1:30+6:00=7:30hrs/5Cycles OVERSLEEP
Day 16 11/30 Thurs Nap 1:30 + 4:30 =6:00hrs/4Cycles
Day 15 11/29 Wed Nap 1:30 + 4:30 = 6:00hrs/4Cycles
Day 14 11/28 Tues Nap 630-8P//1:30+6=7.30hrs/5CyclesOVERSLEEP?ETIO?
Day 13 11/27 Mon Nap 6-730P//1:30+4:30=6:00hrs/4Cycles
Day 12 11/26 Sun XXX
Day 11 11/25 Sat Nap 12N-130P//1:30 + 4:30 = 6:00hrs/ 4Cycles
Day 10 11/24 Fri Nap 530-700P// 1:30 + 8:00hrs = 9:30hrs(!!!)/570m/
6Cycles+30m OVERSLEEP ??TURKEY???
Day 9 11/23 Thurs Nap 330-500P//1:30 + 4:30h = 6hrs /4Cycles
Day 8,7 11/22,21 Wed, Tues XXX
Days 6 11/20 Mon Nap 5-630P//1:30+6:00=7:30 hrs OVERSLEEP
Day 7 11/19 Sun NO NAP//0 + 4:45 hrs (3~+ cycles)NO NAP
Day 6 11/18 Sat NO NAP//0 + 6.5 hrs NO NAP/OVERSLEEP
Day 5 11/17 Fri Nap4-450P//:50+7=7:50hrs/5Cyc/InterruptedNap,OVERSLP
Day 4 11/16 Thurs Nap 615-745P// 1:30 + 4:30 hrs=6hrs/4Cycles
Day 3 11/15 Wed Nap 800-1100PM// 3:00hrs + 4:15= 7:15hrs OVERSLEEP
Day 2 11/14 Tues Nap 730-1030P//3:00+4:30=7:30hrs/5Cycles OVERSLEEP
Day 1 11/13 Monday Nap 630-800PM---1:30+4:30=6hrs/4Cycles
90 min Cycles: 1=1:30hrs; 2=3:00hrs; 3=4:30hrs; 4=6:00hrs; 5=7:30hrs
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