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Acting Like Godot · 12-05-2006, 09:38 AM

Markus doesn't know it, but nothing in LOA actually violates Newtonian physics either. How could LOA violate Newtonian physics? It doesn't even violate quantum physics (in fact it can arguably be said to draw support from quantum physics), and quantum physics developed to solve the difficulties of Newtonian physics.

Newtonian physics is stuff like:

v = u + at
F= ma
S = ut + 1/2 at square
Law of Inertia
Law of Conservation of Energy etc

Which of these laws does LOA violate? I can't see it. Suppose I think to myself, "I want a parking lot. I want a parking lot" and a parking lot appears. Which Newtonian law is violated? None. Suppose I think to myself, "I will meet someone special today, I will meet someone special today," and I do. Which Newtonian law is violated? None.

What Markus means, when he says that LOA violates physics, is that LOA violates reality as he perceives it to be. He then calls on science to justify his perception of reality. When I explain what science really says about reality, Markus discovers that reality as described by science is far, far from reality as perceived by Markus.

But he will still cling on to his perception. No basis, no logic, oh never mind.

He cannot accept LOA because it cannot be proven wrong. But if it is proven wrong, why would Markus or anyone else, for that matter, want to accept it?

Whatever he believes is not possible, he considers to be magic. Then he says, "Aha, magic is not possible."

He runs so many circles around himself I think he'll get giddy soon.

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By the way, when we think, the brain has electrical impulses. If thoughts are electricity, or thoughts produce electricity, then thoughts are energy, or thoughts produce energy.

Either way, energy cannot be destroyed (Law of Conservation of Energy). It can only be transformed from one state to another.

So when you think your thoughts, energy is produced, and it's indestructible. It has to go somewhere, and it can change from one state to another. This is Newtonian physics.

After you thought your thoughts, where did they, or their energy, go? What did they, or their energy, transform to?

How did your thoughts affect reality?

Never forget that energy can carry highly detailed information. Radio waves, for example, are all around us. That's energy. We can't see radio waves, we can't feel them. Turn on a radio, however, and you can get highly detailed information about the stock markets today; the weather forecast, as well as plenty of music.

When I think thoughts about a car park lot, that's one kind of thought. When I think thoughts about a cup of coffee, that's another kind of thought. The two thoughts are qualitatively different. We know this for ourselves - it's experiential. The information encoded in our thoughts must therefore be different.

And if thoughts affect reality ............ how do different thoughts affect reality differently?

12-05-2006, 09:38 AM	#78 (permalink)
Acting Like Godot Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 9,613	Markus doesn't know it, but nothing in LOA actually violates Newtonian physics either. How could LOA violate Newtonian physics? It doesn't even violate quantum physics (in fact it can arguably be said to draw support from quantum physics), and quantum physics developed to solve the difficulties of Newtonian physics. Newtonian physics is stuff like: v = u + at F= ma S = ut + 1/2 at square Law of Inertia Law of Conservation of Energy etc Which of these laws does LOA violate? I can't see it. Suppose I think to myself, "I want a parking lot. I want a parking lot" and a parking lot appears. Which Newtonian law is violated? None. Suppose I think to myself, "I will meet someone special today, I will meet someone special today," and I do. Which Newtonian law is violated? None. What Markus means, when he says that LOA violates physics, is that LOA violates reality *as he perceives it to be. He then calls on science to justify his perception of reality. When I explain what science really says about reality, Markus discovers that reality as described by science is far, far from reality as perceived by Markus. But he will still cling on to his perception. No basis, no logic, oh never mind. He cannot accept LOA because it cannot be proven wrong. But if it is proven wrong, why would Markus or anyone else, for that matter, want to accept it? Whatever he believes is not possible, he considers to be magic. Then he says, "Aha, magic is not possible." He runs so many circles around himself I think he'll get giddy soon. --------- By the way, when we think, the brain has electrical impulses. If thoughts are electricity, or thoughts produce electricity, then thoughts are energy, or thoughts produce energy. Either way, energy cannot be destroyed (Law of Conservation of Energy). It can only be transformed from one state to another. So when you think your thoughts, energy is produced, and it's indestructible. It has to go somewhere, and it can change from one state to another.* This is Newtonian physics. After you thought your thoughts, where did they, or their energy, go? What did they, or their energy, transform to? *How did your thoughts affect reality?* Never forget that energy can carry highly detailed information. Radio waves, for example, are all around us. That's energy. We can't see radio waves, we can't feel them. Turn on a radio, however, and you can get highly detailed information about the stock markets today; the weather forecast, as well as plenty of music. When I think thoughts about a car park lot, that's one kind of thought. When I think thoughts about a cup of coffee, that's another kind of thought. The two thoughts are qualitatively different. We know this for ourselves - it's experiential. The information encoded in our thoughts must therefore be different. And if thoughts affect reality ............ how do different thoughts affect reality differently? Last edited by Acting Like Godot; 12-05-2006 at 10:30 AM.