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Old 05-29-2008, 03:46 PM   #178 (permalink)
irtrogdor
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Originally Posted by Dave McNamee View Post
Truth would be better served by helping those enslaved by religion to understand the freedom and personal strength that can be attained through learning how to be truly spiritually awake and take responsibility for their own lives. Then if they are enslaved they will be able to free themselves. Attacking religion itself is not the way to free the slaves. Teach them true principles and they will free themselves.
Hmm, interesting. Why is it that because I believe in intelligent design of the universe (verses chaos and random life), a God that compels us all to do good (verses somehow finding goodness from within your animal self), and knowing in my heart that I will be with my God after I die (verses fading out of existence or something) that I am enslaved? Why is it that I have to reject a personal God who loves me for who I am to be truly spiritual?


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I suppose I get annoyed with organized Christianity's apparent "Get Out of All Atrocities Free!" pass.

But why? Isn't it liberating to know that the God of the universe will forgive you no matter what? That all you have to do is ask and its done? (you do have to ask though)
The idea of forgiveness isn't to bypass responsibility, on the contrary! The idea is that you are recognizing your faults to God and then taking responsibility for your actions here on earth. Forgiveness means that nothing you do on this earth (short of completely rejecting god) will affect your salvation. That is if you have in fact accepted Jesus Christ as your savior (remember, salvation is a privilege not a right)
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