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Old 05-20-2008, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan View Post
@ Jeff, here's a link about one of those bad Factory farms that don't really exist.

Federal Bust: Immigration Raid Reveals Meth Lab At Nation's Largest Kosher Meat Plant

Luckily, PETA only uses old, emotional videos, and they had nothing to do with exposing animal cruelty here in 2005.

And pollution was never a problem here in 2006. No kids will get Leukemia from the polluted water in this town..

And even if this was pretty bad, I'm sure this was the exception. Not like they are the largest Kosher meat processor in the nation or anything.

I'm sure the other top twenty plants are much more ethical, and don't have these issues.

I don't understand your post, is it meant to be sarcastic? I did look at the link and I did not see my ranch mentioned there so I guess I'm doing OK. I am just amazed that there is such a thing as a Jewish meth lab. I can't help but chuckle about that.

How do you know the kids won't get leukemia?

A lot of the video floating around is old, from over 20 years ago, this link does not disprove that. What the article proves to me is that there is still a lot of work to do in cleaning up the industry. I appreciate that you feel strongly about the meat industry and you seem to believe that animal torture and wanton environmental destruction is part of the business, but, fortunately ...it's the exception not the norm. First , it's a business, which means profit/money is involved and we all know what happens when money is at stake, people sometimes do un-ethical things. As I've mentioned several times, factory farming (large scale animal processing) has improved a lot in the last 20 years and I choose to focus on these advancements. I'll even give Peta credit for exposing a lot of things that needed fixing, I just don't agree with their ultimate agenda which is to dictate what is and is not acceptable to eat. I still contend most of the reason for their drive to do all this is purely emotional (fluff bunny) attitudes about animals and their denial of our place at (or near) the top of the food chain.

I have stated that I am against cruelty, mistreatment, and mal-treatment of animals but I don't see that that attitude is at all in conflict with eating animals and supporting the industry and ,if need be, defending my right to do so. The truth is the anti's efforts would be much better spent being an agent of change rather pointing fingers and pushing an anti-meat agenda because they are doomed to fail, people are going to eat meat, lots of it every day in this country and all over the world. At least that's my feelings, that the system should be improved, not done away with.

Obviously your post is meant to discredit my posts about PETA using underhanded, sometimes false, frequently overly sensationalized propaganda to turn people off of eating meat but the only way to really do that is to get them to stop doing it, because, like it or not, it's a fact.

Again, to beat a dead horse just a little more, I never said problems didn't exist. When you look at the sheer quantity of animals put through the system every day I'm sure there is a lot of video opportunity, stuff that would make PETA's mouth water, you know, so they can be right.

I've been forthright with my position but I don't think you have, you seem to have a large emotional investment in this topic. Is there something you need to get off your chest?
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