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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot  Wolf's view is that my consciousness is your consciousness is one consciousness ultimately, that is, all our consciousnesses are one consciousness, otherwise the universe cannot exist. This is a logical (ie inevitable) proof arising out of a few basic assumptions like:
(a) the universe does exist
(b) matter is composed of subatomic particles
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Yeah, I have that view you wrote and have subjective experiences of the one consciousness - and to say more/reiterate now. In our normal ego illusionary seperative objective world we each have our own consciousness as part of the maya of the fall from Eden. This physical world is in our face and exists to the degree we have our senses to witness what we have come to belive it to be or come to intend to experience "things" (objectivety). Like some sort of feedback that constantly reinforces my ego and my this and that. But also, the whole physcial world we sense is imbued with everything being connected and is one consciousness. How could it not be? How can anything exist or be sensed by consciousness without it being connected? Isn't that what consciousness is - being connected (one with everything) and able to reflect (sense) on that connection?
I'm not sure why it makes senses to me. Maybe I've read things link Acting has posted (one I remember was the Tao of Physics) as well as some college exposure to Bohr, Einstein, Newton etc... I sometimes wonder about that idea that this physical world is an illusion and the real world is that "all is one" stuff - that maybe it's the other way around. This physical world is "real" and the "all is one" is an illusion. After all the physcial world is presistant enough that my toe hurts when I stub it. I (my eog me) is a big conglumeration of a bunch of energy particles that when we try to observe what we are made of, it gets tricky to identify as the physists are struggling with quantum and duality observations. So there's this bunch of stable particles/waves/energy that generate and regenerate to be "me" in this seperative/ego world is an illusion. But how is that a useful though or belief? Or does it even matter to believe that the physcial world is illusion? I guess this IM/LoA stuff tries to reconcile or relate this physical world of illusion with the subjective "all is one" truth and tries to give us some way of looking at why we experience anything at all. I mean, with IM one of the first things to fire off in my head was, oh, so I am intending to have a body and senses to experience this physical universe. I didn't have to experement to see something manifest since I'm getting what I am anyway, every moment. I'm slowly absorbing what LoA is in hopes of being more deliberate - I don't know how magical I want to be with it, i.e. manifest out of thin air or levitate or perform miricles. And I don't want to spend time/energy trying to decide if I believe thin air manifestation is possible.
Anyway, having this physical world to play in is awesome and very, very, very magical without having to manifest something out of thin air. Actually, every moment your body is still here again in this moment is amazing like crazy - each of us apprenetly are able to remanifest our bodies and everything we see over and over again for each moment that is right now. And that we can look at it and such is awesome - produces awe. Isn't that magical enough?