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Originally Posted by yossarian   Yes my post was meant to be humorous. The idea of a battered carnivore being picked on is very ironic to me, because I know it's the same way that many veggies feel.
Omnivores don't need anti-veggie propaganda because it's the mainstream stance of society. Every news caster, almost every commercial, almost every person is a walking billboard for omnivorory.
I suppose it's true that certain communities have the exact opposite case, like this community, but to me this is strange, probably just because of where I live
It was a joke, I was just trying to make the point that if the Pavlina forum comes across as hostile to meat-eaters, the rest of the world comes across as hostile to vegetarians. Like how many restaurants have literally put animal products in my food even though I specifically ask for no animal products. I'm sure most of this is due to laziness, some to ignorance, and a minority to malice. But I have to admit that oftentimes the world seems downright hostile to me.
I'm not kidding at all when I say that every fast food restaurant in my town has animal products in EVERYTHING on the menu. Even the salads have bacon and chicken and cheese.. it is a similar story at all the sit down restaurants.. from french fries to breadsticks they manage to put animal products in everything. I honestly can't eat at restaurants without breaking my vegan diet at least a little.
Often if you ask for a dish without the animal products they serve it to you with them anyway.. oriental food is the worst offender. They'll take vegetarian dishes like rice and add in eggs or chicken as a "bonus".
I'm just venting If you think you're persecuted by the PETA propaganda you should try out my shoes for a day. Being vegan with non-vegan friends is poison for your social life, at least here in ranching country. Maybe when the housing prices go down I'll move to California which I hear is full of tree hugging hippies |
I actually never thought about the difficulties of eating vegan "out" until you described it, I suppose it would be a challenge.
Just a question, no implications intended, what is your stance on exerting influence on restaurants, especially chain restaurants, to include vegan meals even if it is not cost effective for them to do so. For instance, do you feel that a restaurant owner is obligated to alter their menu even if they will lose money? It's sort of a civil liberties question I guess. Personally I've never been a believer in catering to special interests even though sometimes I'm the one with a special interest. Like the smoking bans, for instance, where I live there were several little mom and pop cafés' that were the last holdouts for the smoking crowd and one in particular was a great breakfast place, but the smoke was almost too much sometimes, so...I just found another place to go instead of complaining. I felt and still feel it was their right to own and operate a place that catered to smokers, even though I don't smoke. Now, in a situation with no choice I suppose I would just tough it out.