[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Markus74

That example is completely different from those magical claims other people in here make.

Would it seem magical to you that right now, your hand is popping in and out of existence? Because that's something all the quantum physicists agree on.

In a highly compressed nutshell:

your hand is composed of molecules;
molecules are composed of atoms;
atoms are composed of subatomic particles;
subatomic particles pop in and out of existence;
if they are being observed, they exist;
if they are not being observed; they do not exist;
your hand cannot exist unless it is being observed;
observation implies consciousness;
consciousness implies thought;

And without thought, there is no consciousness; therefore no observation; therefore no subatomic particle; therefore no atom; therefore no molecule; therefore no hand.

And if thought changes; then consciousness changes; then observation changes; then subatomic particle changes; then atom changes; then molecule changes; then hand changes.

Add the principle of nonlocality (which Bohm says it's necessary, based on mathematical calculations of the probability that a subatomic particle will manifest in any spot at any time):

consciousness can be anywhere;
it need not be localised in the spacetime of your hand;
it need not be your consciousness;
*it could be my consciousness;

Therefore, if I am thinking about your hand, and I suddenly change what I think about your hand:

the thought changes --> the consciousness changes --> the observation changes --> the subatomic particles change --> the atoms change --> the molecules change --> your hand changes.

That is, by thinking about your hand, I can affect your hand.

Now, if you irritate me any further, I'm gonna change your hand into a pig's hoof.

Caveat on *:

Wolf's view is that my consciousness is your consciousness is one consciousness ultimately, that is, all our consciousnesses are one consciousness, otherwise the universe cannot exist. This is a logical (ie inevitable) proof arising out of a few basic assumptions like:

(a) the universe does exist
(b) matter is composed of subatomic particles

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One more point to note: if a subatomic pops out of existence, where did it go? Possibly to another dimension. Heeeeeey, don't give me that look. It's the scientists who say so.