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I think part of "being a man" is not needing or letting other people tell you how to be a man.
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I think there is still a space where you can discuss ideals without pushing other people.
Everyone has to find their own ideals, but it valuable to look at the ideals that other people persue before you make your own decision of what life you want to life. Looking at other ideals broadens your perspective and can give you ideas.
That intenal and external conversation of thinking about values and ideals is important.