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Originally Posted by yossarian  Would it be accurate to say that you enjoy this way of life so much that you're willing to kill numerous animals?
I get the feeling that people are simply unaware of the fact that humans can be perfectly healthy on a 100% vegan diet.
There is simply no reason to eat meat besides one's own pleasure and/or habitual response.
Claiming some kind of ownership over the birth process of animals doesn't change the ethics of the situation at all. You can't claim birth. Ultimately the animals themselves drive their birthing process and just because you interfere in numerous ways does not put you in any kind of God-like position of life or death judgment over them.
Certainly there have been times when animals have chosen to die so that humans can survive - but those days are long past.
Today meat is eaten for pleasure and pleasure alone.
Would you agree with the statement that you raise, kill, and eat animals entirely for your own pleasure? Both the pleasure of the "way of life" and the pleasure of the taste of flesh? |
I think all human motivations are toward pleasure or away from pain. You do what you do because you have convinced yourself of the "rightness" of your beliefs, I'm happy for you, meanwhile,I'll be doing what I feel compelled to do which is help meet the demand for beef. You are assigning human emotions to animals which is a classic "anti meat" tactic. Even if you were right about the "eat meat simply for pleasure" comment , what would be wrong with that?
An ironic thing I've noticed is that most anti meat people are pro-choice, as in pro-abortion and I've never understood the disconnect they must have in their brain to go to such great lengths to try and get others to conform to their beliefs about animals and their suffering but they will happily kill a baby if it inconveniences them.
I do what I do because I like it, the animals don't suffer at my hands and they live however long they live until it ends with a relatively quick and painless death from a bolt gun, not starvation, not pneumonia, not killed by dogs that some do-gooder turned loose because they couldn't care for them. Most importantly, I do what I do to feed people, you know, fellow human beings. You will not make me feel guilty about what I do because I do a good job at it and have worked through all this stuff before and I've heard all these arguments before. The truth is that your way of thinking and being is by far in the minority and if 95% of the population were eating beans instead of beef I would still rather raise cattle.