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I'm not trying to start a flame war. I swear. I hope I come off as calm and civil as I'm trying to be.

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

for men interested in seriously strengthening their bodies.

I guess my view on this point is that I'd rather have a body that is strong yet manuverable, rather than bulky and strong(er?). Being leaner and more flexible, you can take bigger strides thus run faster, weigh less so you can jump, climb, etc better. I learn to use the different synergistic muscle groups for balance and grace, rather than sheer strength in certain specific muscles. I guess it would depend on the lifestyle, but for me, I don't often need to lift, carry, etc heavy things. More often I am in my own body moving through the world and would like to have the agility and strength to carry my own body in whatever way necessary, no more, no less.

And if I can carry my own body weight balanced on my hands, I can also hold up my end of the couch when moving time comes.

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Also, your focus is clearly on how you look rather than how strong you are - which is clearly a feminine activity.

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

...you will still be a skinny hippie at the end of it.

I guess I thought you were focusing on looks when you mentioned the "skinny hippie" thing. Maybe I missed your point.

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

My advice to you all is stop behaving like a bunch of airline stewards, don't worry about your butt or tummy and focus on becoming a strong man.

Right, gotcha. So it's not about sexual orientation any more, it's about certain career choices that makes you care about your "butt or tummy." Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but the gluteus muscles and the abdominals are some of the biggest and most important muscle groups in the human body, so how is that not focusing on becoming strong?

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

If you want women to be sexually attracted to you it is going to be primarily because of your physical confidence - your pride in knowing that you are strong and worthy enough.

I agree. It's about the confidence. But I disagree that it's primarily the physical confidence. Maybe that's where we disconnect. I don't feel the need to be stronger than is practical. I do feel that women generally are more interested in power and confidence than in any particular physical appearance. But that's a thread in the "relationships" section.