Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfgang  I didn't get that Tolle suggests getting rid of, or killing the ego. That part I thought I got was to watch out for "identification with form". Of which ego is a form - a bunch of thought structures, if you will.
So then, there's an overlap possible. |
He does speak mostly about not identifying with form, but in the webcasts he talks about killing the ego. I can't remember if this is in the book as well, I'd have to check. But I think that these are two very different things. Not identifying with form/ego is good and useful and it makes sense to me. Killing the ego, not so much, imho.
Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfgang I think the parts that contradict between LoA and Tolle are the parts of LoA that were "distorted" to make people want to buy the material. Like hooking people into thinking they can get what they want, by just thinking a certain way. That the real LoA needs to be seen from the point of Being anyway before one becomes a grand manifester. And once in Being, you can desire with your heart and it works out. Desire from the mind, is difficult. imho... |
You're spot on when you say that desires need to come from a state of Being. Very good point!
However, going for material things isn't all that the LoA is about necessarily and this perceived distortion is what people want to hear, not what everyone is teaching (although, admittedly, some are certainly capitalizing on that). The Secret, for instance, has been criticized for its "focus on money" and even though the movie is far from perfect, people just WANT to emphasize the part about money when in reality The Secret is divided into "The secret to health", "The secret to the World", "The secret to you", "The secret to Relationships", etc, AND "The Secret to Wealth - or money", but people seem to forget or not notice that. I don't think it's been distorted, at least not by most of those who are teaching - but maybe by many who are learning or many of those who want to criticize the LoA. I think that money is just something that a lot of people are after and choose to use the LoA in that direction.
But whatever the case, whether someone's intentions are about money or not, the process is the same. I think this overlap between LoA and Tolle that you pointed out (creation from a state of Being as opposed to creation from the mind) is key. And it reminds me of Steve's podcast entitled "Faster Goal Achievement" in which he says (paraphrasing): "What kind of person would have already accomplished that? Become that person". It's not exactly the same thing you're describing, but it's a very similar concept.