Hi,
I am a vegetarian but I do not judge those that eat meat. I would like to discuss the points you made in this post.
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Originally Posted by jeff3  Large scale processing is a fact of life "and death" for these animals, but the ones I have seen were clean, well lighted and the live animals were handled and housed in a manner that reduced stress associated with the smells and sounds of the facility. It's not perfect, but nothing like PETA portrays it in their carefully selected (and probably ancient) footage. One of their films showed a guy wearing garb from the 70's and they claimed it was recent footage. |
So you are saying that there are animal farms you have seen which are "not perfect" but okay enough. What about the others? I know through first-hand knowledge that there are many, many places that mistreat the animals in as much horrible a way as PETA portrays. So what about the large scale meat production from those places - the people who buy their products and help them increase their profits and hurt more animals are justified in what they do?
Do you agree that videos like those of PETA at least help awake human consciousness so that more and more people try to find out where their food came from, and buy their meat from places where the animals haven't been grossly mistreated, and make them want to buy meat from farms like your own? If PETA went around publicizing videos of good, clean farms only, don't you think it would make people think that is how EVERY farm works, even though a whole lot of them aren't like that? Don't you think PETA and others are doing a great job making people aware of the cruelties that go on in this world and help them make more informed choices?
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Originally Posted by jeff3 If you are concerned about the suffering of chickens I suggest you study up on the neuro-anatomy of birds, they do have the capacity to feel pain but they don't have the "wiring" to have emotions like fear,happiness,sadness etc... They are wired for survival, much like reptiles. We humans tend to project our own feelings onto other animals and even inanimate objects, we assume our experience is "their experience" and usually it's not even close. |
While I believe it is humanly impossible to go inside an animal's head and decide whether it feels emotions, let us accept for the sake of an argument that they indeed only react to stimuli. Does that justify us if we needlessly mistreat an animal?
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Originally Posted by jeff3 Like I mentioned above, the process could be improved, but don't be sucked in by the extremist groups that wish to impose their will on everyone else. The next time you see one of those films, remind yourself that for it to exist, someone wanted it to exist to prove their point and so they actually willed the events into existence to prove they exist. IM at it's worst. |
Well, this is indeed funny. So then does it follow that every charitable organization manifested poverty/illness etc so that it can prove a point? Every cop manifested crimes and criminals so he could keep his job?
How the LOA does get twisted!
Once more want to clarify that it is not a personal attack, just stating my opinion regarding some points you made.
Cheers,
Gayathri.