Interesting stuff Patricia.
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Originally Posted by Patricia  However, "killing" the ego as Tolle suggests (and even says that himself in the webcasts, that he killed his ego) means that you're killing the "wanting" behind your intentions. What's the purpose of the physical existence and experience if you kill that? To me this gets way too close to apathy and misses the point of a physical existence and experience. |
I hear you. This was (and still sort of is) one of the biggest stumbling blocks for me regarding this whole topic, LOA, presence, etc.
Even Abraham says, if you are wanting something, you are not experiencing having something. You're experiencing wanting it--manifesting more thoughts and more experiences of wanting--not having. To want is to not have.
Detachment--yeah a lot of us are perplexed by this. Slowly, it's becoming clear to me. I believe it's not so much that you are apathetic, or free of desire, you are simply not FIGHTING the reality of the moment. You spilled the milk on the floor. Clearly, that was not what you would have desired, but it happened. It's real. You can't undo it by saying "milk! Unspill yourself! You did NOT just spill!"
Then extrapolate that, now you can't sleep at night because the milk was spilled on the floor. The horror. I can't believe this happened. I HATE spilled milk. Oh god I'm so mad. Am I ALWAYS going to spill milk? Am I destined to a life of spilled milk? Lol.
The whole time a life of unspilled milk is waiting for you, yet you can't experience it--because you're pre-occupied with the experience of the spilt milk and all the wanting and drama it caused. Hopefully this isn't too silly of an analogy.
I believe that to detach is to create your desire. It's real. You believe it, you know it... so there is no attachment. You already have it. You have total faith it's yours, and real. So there's nothing to cling to, no doubt you could lose it, it's in your reality. And I think the pleasant feelings that come from this, are where the action comes in---you're one with the desire and it starts happening, through you.
Just like you have no attachment to blinking your eyes. You almost take it for granted. I think it's the same thing.
It's taken me quite a bit of searching and struggling with the whole "is detachment the same as not having the desire in the first place" and even now I lose the perspective sometimes. I believe it's a subtle shift in awareness that comes from the abundance mentality, where you naturally KNOW all is provided for. And once that desire manifests, you have a new desire, etc.