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Originally Posted by Cantando  I don’t believe anyone can control their mind completely. |
agree, trying to control the mind is what makes it hard to "control" it. the more one tries to control it the more it seems like we can't control it. if one doesn't approach the mind's thoughts as something to control, we ironically have the upper hand in a way - we become a supervisor that can direct or push the mind in a direction or select thoughts and even suggest thoughts.
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Thoughts and feelings are constantly arising from your subconscious.
You can’t stop them from arising. You can try to suppress them, but they will still manifest in some form or another – as an itch, a sneeze, a pain, an illness, or whatever. However, you can choose to be disinterested in your thoughts and not to give them any weight.
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one can train the mind to be a servant. we don't have to believe everything the mind thinks because a lot of it is rehash. the thoughts that come from the subconscious may be like mental noise that can be calmed down - saying they constantly arise is not a constant. Sometimes there are more thoughts from the subconscious and sometimes there are less - it varies, it is not a constant. We do have something to do with how noisy those arising thoughts are.
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Standard fare – preached many times in many places over the last 3,000 years.
Even when you are consciously choosing not to think, thoughts will still arise. A person may occasionally feel spaced out during meditation (consciousness splattered across the landscape), but it is only temporary. It would be impossible to live a normal life if one was continuously in that state.
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thoughts seem to come after the fact of experience. thoughts seem to be involved with defining the ego. are all thoughts verbal? if so, then thoughts are part of language and communicating and making subject and objects.