[RT Wolf]

There's a lot of problems tied up with sex and our attitudes towards sex, including social norms, technology (i hypothesize a pre-birth control society has restrictive attitudes toward sex and possibly the strong gender roles are caused by that, too), gender roles as well as biological sex, the philosophy of sex, the religion of sex and the fact that sex is pretty pre-rational and it seems that trying to understand it with the part of the brain that has little to do with it may well be a fruitless excersize.

While I can't claim to be an expert on evo psych, I'm not entirely sure about at least some of the claims made by the person in the post by the Soprana fellow. He also seems to take off pretty rapidly and far away from the stuff that he was referencing to unreferenced territory and making broad claims about a lot of different issues including societal norms, social contracts, etc.

You also end up with some other issues here: most of the more "animalistic" urges that we have are pretty well accepted in our society (eating, pooping, etc) but sex is only slowly gaining acceptance. And I do think of it as a basic sort of function. The cost of having sex is going way down, ie, don't have to have children nor is there fear of social backlash as much for sex outside marriage. The only thing similar to this that I can think of is the sort of man-man love that was much more readily accepted in ancient Greek societies, which, again, has low costs. We are in very, very new territory, as a society and as a species, too, because sex has changed. If you follow evo psych and assume that the sheer ecstacy of sex was supposed to be an incentive to procreate, and if you can have all the sex you want without having to worry about any consequences...it just messes with the norms and everything goes out the window.

I guess my point is...I don't think it's very simple.