Wolfgang, would you please not interpret something into my posts I didn't say? I didn't say I am not interest in the teachings of Jesus/whatever spiritual teacher, but that they are of no consequence to me. That is a serious difference.
"So the DW syndrom is more so about actually ending up hurting people? Is that what you are saying? But then I thought DW don't care about that. Oh, they only care if someone gets hurt in such a way as to be no benefit to the DW anymore. hmm..."
Yep, your last sentence does sum it up, imho. If someone is hurt in such a way that he'll take revenge or will not serve the intended purpose of a relationship any longer, it is perfectly valid for the most selfish person to care about this person not getting hurt... because you'd hurt yourself if you hurt somebody you want something from.
"this is the issue that the world is facing that you seem to not care about - it is sad to me. You are only able to feel this way because you have lost you feeling of connection to nature and hardened your view of what self is. And how do you know how well off the world is? How do you know it's not going to effect you? It can be too late by the time something bites back."
How do you know all that about me? You claim all that.. and don't even know me. I am not "disconnected" but simply have another view of world and nature than you, same goes for being "hardened". Of course, your believe that something will "bite back" will make it very likely that you'll experience exactly the results of this believe. But think about it: Many good people (good as in unselfish) experience many, many bad things too. So the principle diesn't seem to work, does it? Be good and the world will backfire vs. be bad and the world will backfire doesn't fit with the daily events.
"I thought DW are about self. and getting stuff for self from others. That means being connected in one way - of viewing "others" as something to take from. the connection is of viewing "others" as not me. Is that a connection? Or a rejection and polarizing - me and them. And if a DW isn't self-sufficient then they rely on others and that goes into LW world stuff. LWs know others are there for them and vice versa."
Being about self doesn't mean being self-sufficient, that's also a difference. Being not alone is a very basical need, even natural. Man is no hamster who likes to be alone apart from the time in the year when the hormones go crazy.
Having friends, being connected is therefore fulfilling a need of man, which is selfish, but of course, attributes also of the happiness of others who want to feel connected to that person, too.
Where did you get the idea that being not self-sufficient is being a LW? It is simply the realisation that in the lifestyle of the current culture, being alone won't achieve most goals.
And however your views of connection, a person that is not yourself will always be an other and not me
"sorry, you have lost your sense of awe and wonder. and I see how you regard man as an animal. the earth will suffer after we are all gone, after we all have been DWs for too long. but then it doesn't seem to matter to DWs about what comes after. If a DW has kids, what do they think about handing down a broken earth to their kids?"
Well, loosing sense of awe and wonder means that there is something to wonder about... indeed, there is nothing I see reason to wonder about and feel awe for. This is again one of your metaphysical constructions that are just a believe, and nothing more. My believes are just as valid as yours, because we can't proove them. Therefore, I think your constant expressions of "feeling sorry for me" "you are so hardened" etc. rather inapprobiate. Wouldn't it be enough to say that you don't agree with me, but can accept my point as possibility? You don't need to share it, you know
For darkworkers and children, I guess they would have a different approach, as people usually love their children, so they would perhaps take extrem pains to make the world a better place - out of the selfish motive to leave a better world for the beloved child. You make an invalid point when you try to classify some actions as darkworker per se just by my opinion. The maxime "doing what's best for ME" can take many, many different forms depending on the personal definition of "best".
You can't tell the motivation of someone by their actions, or only very rarely.
As the spiritual teacher you seem to be so fond of would say: Judge not, that you not be judged.