[dmauder]

Hello again Justin!

Originally Posted by justingiddings

I'm sorry you feel that way. While LC has a multi-level compensation plan, you will notice that on the main corporate page, we never mention it as a business opportunity. There are no videos about the comp plan, or bonus structure, or anything. There aren't any global pools, or car bonuses, or crown directors - nothing other than a basic unilevel plan. Why? Because very few people build it as a business and the goal of those few people (who have to go through a 7 month training course) is not to sign up business builders who are going to build LC, but find people already in the industry looking for help. Out of 40,000 subscribers, maybe 35 are actively promoting LC.

I guess this is why I mentioned the curiosity approach... I've requested information from LC in the recent past. They don't have any of that on their main website, but you certainly do find out about the business opportunity, comp plan, bonus structure, and all that AFTER you register for info. Don't get me wrong, I totally understand that's the business they are in. But why not just say up front that LC is a network marketing business? I was just put off by you saying that you're not connected with one, and then I see immediately that you in fact are. That's all I was trying to say.

As a trainer, I'm used to being blunt, so allow me to be blunt on this: you've limited yourself. To say you'll never do something because of a sliver of experience you've had limits you.

I've had WAY more than a sliver of experience with mlm and network marketing. In fact, every experience (too many to remember, seriously) has ended negatively.

NWM is merely a form of product distribution. It is exactly like an affiliate program such as Amazon.com or the thousands of others except that it has multiple levels of compensation.

I understand the product distribution part, but I completely disagree that it is exactly like affiliate programs. With an affiliate program, I always get a fair price because there is only one layer, and maybe two, of compensation. All nwm products/services I've seen and/or used in the past have been overpriced because there are so many layers of payout involved. The people involved in nwm just seem to look the other way on price. They try to justify it in their brains that the product or service is superior and worth more money. That's simply not the case. This part always amazed me... That people are willing to spend so much on often inferior products and services simply to justify their involvement in the business.

And the curiosity approach? That doesn't even work and only fools tell their downline to do that. If you owned a bike shop, would you ever ever ever use that approach to people walking by? Would you put a blanket over the signs and windows and mysteriously ask random people to enter? No, and if you did, they'd laugh at you! Yet dumb sponsors who are so clueless that the only way the can sign people up is by deception perpetuate the myth that tht's how one builds a business.

I totally agree -- no argument here! That's why it's so unfortunate that it goes on every day, even with HUGE nwm companies (ie. Herbalife, Amway/Quixtar, etc), and doesn't appear to be letting up any time soon.

Rather, I teach people how to effectively market to their target market. If you sell bikes, you wouldn't go stalk people in the malls to tell them about your bikes, you would advertise and market to a bike riding market. So again, it isn't the industry, it is the people, and you don't have to be like them so its a cop out to say, "I vow to never do it because the industry sucks."

I sponsor 5+ people a month every month, and I use no deception, hype, lies, bullying, sleazy sales tactics, guilt or ridicule to make a sale. I find out what people want, what they've got to work with, and then IF there is a fit (and I will tell people if there isn't and hang up because they are lazy or they're already consistently successful and don't need me) I will present my service as a fit for them. I then teach that same, logical throught process to my clients. Find out if there is a need, see if you have a fit for the need, and if so, learn how to effectively show the fit so that the prospect can make an informed decision. That's business with integrity.

I applaud you and wish there were more (MANY more) like you in the industry. Unfortunately, your species is few and far between.

I'm sorry that I made you make a mad face and that you feel that I have no credibility, but consider: you cried out for help, got a successful professional to write back to you at 3 in the morning truly because he felt you really were frustrated and wanted guidance, and then you slapped his hand. Why?

Hopefully I cleared up some of those questions for you in this post. I probably came off a little harsh in my last response, and I apologize for that. I've just had SO many "been there, done that" experiences in mlm/nwm that it tends to get a little old after a while.

You'd think if it was really true that 96% of everyone who tries mlm/nwm fails, that someone would eventually start to change the industry, business model, or whatever it is that is responsible for so much failure.

Dave