[Keith]

Originally Posted by Sam988

I don't think that there's another valid polarity. I mean, we either do things, ultimately, for ourselves or for others. If your goal is to pursuit art, then why are you pursuing it? To be recognized as a great artist, to become famous, to bring joy to other people, to make money, and so on.

Like I said: because art is awesome and beautiful (even when it's horrible). Because it's right to channel art into this world whether it helps you or anyone else or not.

Originally Posted by Sam988

In your case, it probably brings you joy/happiness; so you're doing it for your own pleasure, and you're getting a personal benefit out of it, which means that it's more towards DW motivation because you care only about the pleasure you're getting. You get the point? There's no "for it's own sake" in my opinion. Everything has a higher motivation behind it than "for it's own sake".

Then I strongly disagree with your opinion. Are you familiar with Maslow's hierarchy? Sure, if you don't have your physical and emotional needs met, then your focus is on getting them met. But when you're fed, housed, loved and personally satisfied, then you have no need to do things for yourself - or for others. Everything you do is "for it's own sake".

Are you familiar with Daoism? Daoism is an entire belief system of "for its own sake". You don't do things for yourself, you don't do things for others - you just do things because they are the natural thing to do in those circumstances.

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

You're a salesperson. Will you persuade people to spend more than they need to boost your commissions? Will you favor profitability over genuine service? Or will you go out of your way to serve people, even if you lose money in the process? Either path can succeed, but non-polarized people will be the worst off because they'll hold back and be too lazy (too little greed and too little service).

Steve, I'm sure I remember a blog of yours (rightly) pointing out that the best way to serve yourself is to give value to others. Quite clearly the first approach in your example above would result in diminished business and be detrimental to everyone. It would be a poor path for LWs or DWs.